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PostSubject: Transaxle locking problems    Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:12 pm

So I locked my transaxle today and when I put it all back together it turned fine with out the cover. I could spin the axles by hand and the input and everything. Then I put the cover on and now I cant budge the axles at all even with tires on there for more leverage however I can turn the input shaft and it turns the axles. Why is this? Can someone explain this to me? If it helps I used fearlessfronts method of locking. I also have no clue what kind of transaxle it is but I know it's a Tecumseh pearless.
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PostSubject: Re: Transaxle locking problems    Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:28 pm

It'e very possible that you either welded it out of alignment, or you didn't stagger your welds, and something heat warped.

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PostSubject: Re: Transaxle locking problems    Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:30 pm

My dad seems to think that maybe something is binding up since it turns freely when not together. Would that be a possibility and if so how can I fix that?
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PostSubject: Re: Transaxle locking problems    Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:40 pm

Open it up again, and make sure all the components are seated properly. Pay special attention to the bronze bushings. They have a little tab on them, that indexes slots in the case. get it out of place, and things WILL bind.

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PostSubject: Re: Transaxle locking problems    Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:44 pm

Ok I will try that tom after school. Thank you very much doc. Major help. I was hoping it would be something as simple as binding.
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PostSubject: Re: Transaxle locking problems    Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:05 pm

Don't get exctied just yet, that's only ONE possibility. The other (I mentioned earlier) is a lot uglier. I'm hoping for you, though.

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PostSubject: Re: Transaxle locking problems    Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:18 pm

All I can do is wait till I can open it up and figure it out
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PostSubject: Re: Transaxle locking problems    Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:59 pm

like doc said. I'd pull the two axles out, inspect and make sure the bushings are right, then put it back together. if it turns over easy like that, then its the axles binding, easy to weld it wrong, it has to be set in the bottom case exactly right. worst comes to worse, you can very carefully cut the welds on the pin and grind it out, and re weld it correctly.
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PostSubject: Re: Transaxle locking problems    Tue Nov 18, 2014 7:55 am

@redlinemotorsportts wrote:
like doc said. I'd pull the two axles out, inspect and make sure the bushings are right, then put it back together. if it turns over easy like that, then its the axles binding, easy to weld it wrong, it has to be set in the bottom case exactly right. worst comes to worse, you can very carefully cut the welds on the pin and grind it out, and re weld it correctly.  

Ok thank you both
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PostSubject: Re: Transaxle locking problems    Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:41 pm

when you spin the axles with the case opened up, and if at some point the bull gear or axle shaft lifts up out of position, then you have either welded the spiders wrong or you just simply put the locker back in wrong......this is another possibility
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PostSubject: Re: Transaxle locking problems    Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:33 pm

I have since figured it out however while doing donuts in the gravel next to my house i heard a loud ass pop then i pulled into my driveway and put it up on jack stands. When i spun one tire the other spun the same direction however i can hold one and spin the other. Idk what this would be called cuase its not open but i do know that my weld broke so i need to re-weld it.
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PostSubject: Re: Transaxle locking problems    Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:42 am

@Ghyde97 wrote:
Idk what this would be called

I beleieve the technical term is "busted" Wink

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