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PostSubject: Re: Tubed cage for mower?   Tubed cage for mower? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeApril 27th 2013, 7:50 pm

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Cage design. hard to understand yes but I outlined the tubing in pen and penciled in the motor and chassis
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Cage design. hard to understand yes but I outlined the tubing in pen and penciled in the motor and chassis

Yeah I know you want that, and that'd be awesome to see. So why all others talking about a roll cage???? It's not the same! bounce

Edit: And that's a kick ass drawing lol
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PostSubject: Re: Tubed cage for mower?   Tubed cage for mower? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeApril 27th 2013, 8:06 pm

I can see were your coming from. I guess a roll cage is for something that already, or had a pre-existing cab and your just weldin bars in it
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PostSubject: Re: Tubed cage for mower?   Tubed cage for mower? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeApril 27th 2013, 8:09 pm

I did think about getting a craftsman frame or something, and getting a twin, and rear end from the junkyard. then I can swap parts from my shitty mtd. mtd gots no frame.
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PostSubject: Re: Tubed cage for mower?   Tubed cage for mower? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeApril 27th 2013, 8:20 pm

So there's a lot of welding and bending on such a frame, you up for it?
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PostSubject: Re: Tubed cage for mower?   Tubed cage for mower? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeApril 27th 2013, 8:43 pm

The exocage is a really cool idea. Crawler stuff. front suspension at the very least. To hell with the seatbelt- get a harness.
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PostSubject: Re: Tubed cage for mower?   Tubed cage for mower? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeApril 27th 2013, 8:46 pm

I think ill use 1 1/2 tubing. and thunder, totally I just need those magnet things that hold metal pieces together
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PostSubject: Re: Tubed cage for mower?   Tubed cage for mower? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeApril 27th 2013, 9:11 pm

redlinemotorsportts wrote:
I think ill use 1 1/2 tubing. and thunder, totally I just need those magnet things that hold metal pieces together
1 1/2in tubing will work it will work great for a roll cage.
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Bigger and newer drawing. Re-did the design, still some things I don't like but for the most part it looks sick. I think im going for a craftsman lt1000 type frame, and a v twin, or opposed. anything that's 17hp and up in the junkyard ill take. ill see if the frame in the junkyard has a transaxle and what one. I want a 820, but ill have to do some research on what mowers that axle was in. The front end will be indestructible, and following stretches, or rainbows design as far as spindles.
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PostSubject: Re: Tubed cage for mower?   Tubed cage for mower? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeApril 29th 2013, 7:26 pm

Looks like a strong design.
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PostSubject: Re: Tubed cage for mower?   Tubed cage for mower? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeApril 29th 2013, 8:09 pm

Remember, the triangle is the STRONGEST geometric shape.
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Murray modder wrote:
Remember, the triangle is the STRONGEST geometric shape.
Yeah it is strong.
And also gussets.
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Remember, the triangle is the STRONGEST geometric shape.
Instead of the hold front part coming off like all of the front tubing I think ill just make the tubes that go over the engine removable. like a hood made out of tubes. id just pull the motor up and out
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redlinemotorsportts wrote:
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Remember, the triangle is the STRONGEST geometric shape.
Instead of the hold front part coming off like all of the front tubing I think ill just make the tubes that go over the engine removable. like a hood made out of tubes. id just pull the motor up and out
Good idea.
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You could remove 2/3ds of the tubing, Triangulate more, and save a lot of weight and money
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Chopperhed wrote:
You could remove 2/3ds of the tubing, Triangulate more, and save a lot of weight and money
true true. I want it to look cool tho lol.
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Heres my "insdestrictable" front end concept. uses the spindle ideas from stretches idea, im giving him full credit. I just raised the beam.
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redlinemotorsportts wrote:
Chopperhed wrote:
You could remove 2/3ds of the tubing, Triangulate more, and save a lot of weight and money
true true. I want it to look cool tho lol.

Nothing looks cooler than "well built" and sound cooler than hearing "he does good work"
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Chopperhed wrote:
You could remove 2/3ds of the tubing, Triangulate more, and save a lot of weight and money

Agreed! No need to have all that steel in there- it can still be insanely strong with much less weight.
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Heres my "insdestrictable" front end concept. uses the spindle ideas from stretches idea, im giving him full credit. I just raised the beam.
Thats gonna be one strong frontend.
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Where can I spend my credit, LOL?
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Where can I spend my credit, LOL?
LOL funny guy
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PostSubject: Re: Tubed cage for mower?   Tubed cage for mower? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeApril 30th 2013, 3:30 pm

so I get everyones point. im going to draw up a new design with more triangles and less mat'L.
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Bigger and newer drawing. Re-did the design, still some things I don't like but for the most part it looks sick. I think im going for a craftsman lt1000 type frame, and a v twin, or opposed. anything that's 17hp and up in the junkyard ill take. ill see if the frame in the junkyard has a transaxle and what one. I want a 820, but ill have to do some research on what mowers that axle was in. The front end will be indestructible, and following stretches, or rainbows design as far as spindles.

Remember you have to build what you draw afterwards.

So you may want interlocking lines (pipes).

So easy base, start, is 4 pipes length wise. The rest should be for strength and support.
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PostSubject: Re: Tubed cage for mower?   Tubed cage for mower? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeMay 6th 2013, 6:26 pm

More ideas. someone wanted a back view (?) and the hood or removable engine cover was just a quick idea not nessisarly going to change
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More triangles.
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I saw a gt1000 frame and 18.5 vtwin in the junkyard, that was the style frame I liked. don't think ill get it tho, might wait for something better.
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Yeah.
I like the design.
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