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The "experts" will tell you that you need special fiberglass and have you buy their "special" fiberglass.  I use free insulation from remodeling houses and just pack it in there good.  They say the home insulation doesn't last as long, but I haven't noticed much difference as long as you pack it in pretty tight.  
Isnt that what we live by here at atltf.com? if it Fits it Ships lol
If it doesnt fit BFH it till it does fit!

Thats more like it lol
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This is what it looks with the clutch disengaged it wont go neutral at all stuck here ??????
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you need belt retainers
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you need belt retainers
I do? where tho?
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does the belt fall off?
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Nope it doesent it just doesent disengage completly
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got a pic of your clutch setup?
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that's about it.. just stock still
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so theres just the one idler which is your clutch? not pully swaped or anything?
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Yeah its been pulley swaped got a 5 inch on the tranny i believe and just the stock single pulley clutch
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He's right, you need belt retainers. Also a shorter belt or a larger clutch idler pulley since the belt looks too loose.

The belt retainers will help disengage the belt when the clutch is in, so it won't drag. It will make shifting easier. The belt retainers go as close to the pulley as possible without rubbing. They go on either sode of the pulley right where the belt comes into contact with the pulley. Usually about 180* opposite eachother.
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He's right, you need belt retainers.  Also a shorter belt or a larger clutch idler pulley since the belt looks too loose.  

The belt retainers will help disengage the belt when the clutch is in, so it won't drag.  It will make shifting easier.  The belt retainers go as close to the pulley as possible without rubbing.  They go on either sode of the pulley right where the belt comes into contact with the pulley.  Usually about 180* opposite eachother.
So the retainers go on both pulleys right? And the picture shows the belt with the clutch on is it too loose there ?
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Well, it does look like the belt is too loose, but it could be an optical illusion. If the clutch idler tightens up the belt and the tractor goes, then it's ok.

Here's a pic of my engine pulley. The belt retainers force the belt to "pucker" around the pulley when the clutch is actuated, so the belt lets go of the pulley. It will also help make sure the belt doesn't fall off the pulley.

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HMM no i understand perfectly lol yeah i guess im confusing ppl to th epic i posted is wiht no tension on the belt no clutch engagement
lol if that clears up anything at all . well i tore the thing down again im motivated to make a double pulley clutch so ill be doing that and im gona change the ratio going to a 3.5 inch pulley on the tranny instead of a 5 inch its just been to sloow
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I haven't looked into making a double idler clutch. My single works just fine... I guess it might be good to have a double if I were sinking it into mud past the belt or something, but no need as of yet.
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Just thought it would help my belt situation lol
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Well, the single idler clutch probably isn't the problem keeping you from shifting into neutral. Fix that first...  Wink 
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Well, the single idler clutch probably isn't the problem keeping you from shifting into neutral.  Fix that first...  Wink 
yeah definitly im gona start with the belt retainers first and then start from there
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Got that double pulley clutch thang goin on finally lol first time too
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wow! good work! cant weight to see it work!
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looks great! Very Happy
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should be finished by nextweek i presume
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Nice man. Make sure you brace it good, clutch is kinda important lol!
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Yeah dude i saw your video last night im like man.....i gotta do that hahaha
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Yeah dude i saw your video last night im like man.....i gotta do that hahaha
Yeah i gotta re do mine to the other side so the belt can yank better and do wheelies like a boss! :O
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