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PostSubject: Re: 1997 Murray widebody trail mower   1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_minitimeOctober 27th 2014, 1:31 pm

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I have a boat gas tank on it now so I have 4.4 gallons fuel capacity, also tore it all apart and redid the pulley system. I drove it for about two hours yesterday before my belt disintegrated. my rear pulley was smashed and it makes the belt shake a lot cause it is uneven. so I am going to the hardware store and buying a new 3" pulley and 92" belt, and hopefully it will make my problems go away. also one of the pulleys was 1/2" lower, which made the belt twist over and over as it ran, so that didn't help things much. also painted my engine and made new badges.

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PostSubject: Re: 1997 Murray widebody trail mower   1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_minitimeNovember 10th 2014, 1:21 pm

For those of you who know about this, I need some ideas. I am planning to use a centrifugal clutch on my lawn tractor and run a chain instead of a belt, because I keep breaking them (to much power? 25 hp on a 1/2" belt with different pulleys so it is faster, I think that may be too much load for a belt to handle.) So I plan to use #40 roller chain instead. The original clutch (which is just a pulley that tightens the belt so it engages) will be torn out and a chain tensioner will go in its place, and I will have a centrifugal clutch on the engine for the clutch. I think it would stand up to the abuse, since I have a 6 speed transaxle, so I could start in first or second and then lift off the gas and shift. If anyone has any experience with centrifugal clutches and can tell me if that would stand up to that, please tell me. I will not be pulling with this. I shift without clutching now, and it is pretty easy. I plan on putting a round disk under the sprockets so it won't fall off.
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PostSubject: Re: 1997 Murray widebody trail mower   1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_minitimeNovember 10th 2014, 2:59 pm

1997 Murray wrote:
For those of you who know about this, I need some ideas. I am planning to use a centrifugal clutch on my lawn tractor and run a chain instead of a belt, because I keep breaking them (to much power? 25 hp on a 1/2" belt with different pulleys so it is faster, I think that may be too much load for a belt to handle.) So I plan to use #40 roller chain instead. The original clutch (which is just a pulley that tightens the belt so it engages) will be torn out and a chain tensioner will go in its place, and I will have a centrifugal clutch on the engine for the clutch. I think it would stand up to the abuse, since I have a 6 speed transaxle, so I could start in first or second and then lift off the gas and shift. If anyone has any experience with centrifugal clutches and can tell me if that would stand up to that, please tell me. I will not be pulling with this. I shift without clutching now, and it is pretty easy. I plan on putting a round disk under the sprockets so it won't fall off.

What centr. clutch are you planning on getting? and it's fine aslong you don't slip it to much but let it engage.
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PostSubject: Re: 1997 Murray widebody trail mower   1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_minitimeNovember 11th 2014, 3:37 pm

I'm thinking this one maybe http://www.ebay.com/itm/GO-KART-MINI-BIKE-CENTRIFUGAL-CLUTCH-1-BORE-40-41-CHAIN-14-T-TORQUE-HEAVY-DUTY-/390885972118 but I need imput since I have never owened one or even seen one in person before.
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PostSubject: Re: 1997 Murray widebody trail mower   1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_minitimeNovember 11th 2014, 3:46 pm

I think they are rated for like 16-18HP and that may even be 2-stroke, 4-strokes is like half of that but itl' work if you remember to not slip it hot, so id say go for it and try it.

On my JD 210 im trying the belt type Hilliard Extreme clutch. Think that is rated for 18hp - 4 stroke, but that will smoke to and burn stuck if you drive it wrong. thats why a torque converter is more suited, and the standard mower clutch is genius in its own simplicity.
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PostSubject: Re: 1997 Murray widebody trail mower   1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_minitimeDecember 23rd 2014, 6:57 pm

This is getting turned into a go cart, and donating the widebody-specific parts to this:

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It is a puller/ trail mower and my brother will be using it most. It will have a peerless 920 5-speed, which is locked.
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PostSubject: Re: 1997 Murray widebody trail mower   1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_minitimeJanuary 13th 2015, 8:36 pm

Today saw the axle mounted, front axle welded on, and 5 hp briggs held on with one bolt. Got 13" front tires and 16" rears. got pulleys on and now we need to get clutch and belt fugured out, and mount seat and things like that.
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PostSubject: Re: 1997 Murray widebody trail mower   1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_minitimeJanuary 13th 2015, 9:25 pm

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Today saw the axle mounted, front axle welded on, and 5 hp briggs held on with one bolt.  Got 13" front tires and 16" rears. got pulleys on and now we need to get clutch and belt fugured out, and mount seat and things like that.
Lol I'd get some more bolts to hold that engine down. Singles are rattle traps.
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1997 Murray wrote:
Today saw the axle mounted, front axle welded on, and 5 hp briggs held on with one bolt.  Got 13" front tires and 16" rears. got pulleys on and now we need to get clutch and belt fugured out, and mount seat and things like that.
Lol I'd get some more bolts to hold that engine down. Singles are rattle traps.

yeah, that is just mock- up.
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I know you guys like pics, so here are some:

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PostSubject: Re: 1997 Murray widebody trail mower   1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_minitimeJanuary 14th 2015, 4:45 pm

You need to lay off the adult beverages! LOL...

Cool change up, how do the cut turfs work?
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PostSubject: Re: 1997 Murray widebody trail mower   1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_minitimeJanuary 14th 2015, 6:06 pm

an't had one yet. tires work pretty good, have not driven this yet though.
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PostSubject: Re: 1997 Murray widebody trail mower   1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_minitimeJanuary 15th 2015, 10:43 am

More pics, got carb and muffler on, and seat.

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Seat on!

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Got it outside for a startup.

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Got engine running after three years of hibernation.

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PostSubject: Re: 1997 Murray widebody trail mower   1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_minitimeJanuary 15th 2015, 10:54 am

Oh and zsmachines wants me to use a turbo on this, but I am going to let him down. I am using this:

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That's right, supercharger. 1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_twisted
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PostSubject: Re: 1997 Murray widebody trail mower   1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_minitimeJanuary 15th 2015, 2:50 pm

I thought you were using a 930? Hmm. Looks like a fnr driven off the brake
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I thought you were using a 930? Hmm. Looks like a fnr driven off the brake

yeah, it had a key on a 5/8" shaft so I put it on there and it bolts up so I decided to use it.
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Nice smog pump heard there good for 5 psi or so of boost.
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PostSubject: Re: 1997 Murray widebody trail mower   1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_minitimeJanuary 15th 2015, 3:53 pm

Dirt bike carb alone will wake it up. The fnr has a 26:1 ratio so count that in when gearing it
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redlinemotorsportts wrote:
Dirt bike carb alone will wake it up. The fnr has a 26:1 ratio so count that in when gearing it

thru the break it is 1:7
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PostSubject: Re: 1997 Murray widebody trail mower   1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_minitimeJanuary 15th 2015, 8:42 pm

Got shroud painted and put on footboards and throttle and clutch.

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redlinemotorsportts wrote:
Dirt bike carb alone will wake it up. The fnr has a 26:1 ratio so count that in when gearing it

thru the break it is 1:7
Ah! Did not think about that. Whoops.


Looks good.
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PostSubject: Re: 1997 Murray widebody trail mower   1997 Murray widebody trail mower - Page 6 Icon_minitimeJanuary 16th 2015, 12:48 am

Dude chop that frame up so that the motor is like inches in front of you. Then slap a '60s Huffy hood and kewl fenders onto it and dub it a mini. Also, if you cut the frame in half you could make another identical one with the other half of the chassis! Then you can gear them the same and ya can race with yer buddies!
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thanks guys, and I may use this motor for a different go cart project, and replace the mtd axle with a Peerless 1200 I have and put my onan opposed on this. The onan I got for free because I knew the guy, only catch is that I need to have it on a tractor for the next show, which is in august. The 1200A I got for $10 and the guy wants to see it at the show, so I need to get something done wit them, and this would be practically perfect. or, I could put them in my craftsman, and make it a gt. that would be cool.
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thanks guys, and I may use this motor for a different go cart project, and replace the mtd axle with a Peerless 1200 I have and put  my onan opposed on this. The onan I got for free because I knew the guy, only catch is that I need to have it on a tractor for the next show, which is in august. The 1200A I got for $10 and the guy wants to see it at the show, so I need to get something done wit them, and this would be practically perfect. or, I could put them in my craftsman, and make it a gt. that would be cool.

I'd keep the single and the fnr in this. It IS just a fun little kart to whip around so why bog it down with all that extra weight?
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yeah, the craftsman will be the gt. the only problem with the fnr is that there are no gears. I am going to tweak my clutch and take it for a ride today after I finish my school. the problem with homeschooling is that you are at home, and you can see your mowers, but you can't work on them.
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