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RockeyDA Established Member
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" April 7th 2019, 9:33 pm | |
| It's not valve related. When it was run low on oil for hours it probably wore the cylinder and it now has a little bit of piston slap, causing the knock. That's what the knock sounds like to me anyways.
This would also be why it's burning oil, because the cylinder is worn. "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
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RockeyDA Established Member
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" April 7th 2019, 11:30 pm | |
| - SebastianAlbrecht wrote:
- sending it means not to care about it & run it til death
check the valve guides fist, before buying new rings it cant be valves, the knock happens every rotation. | |
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RockeyDA Established Member
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" April 7th 2019, 11:32 pm | |
| also... how do i tune the main jet on a fully adjustable carb? is there better way then feeling for bog on just dumping the go lever/cluch all the way? | |
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" April 8th 2019, 8:56 am | |
| @RockeyDA Well it's needs to be tuned at full throttle. Problem is when the engine is under load the governor lets in more air which will lean it a tad. The best method I've found is to turn your carb to factory specs, tweak it by feel (I struggle with this), and then check your spark plug after a hard run to see if you're running rich or lean. | |
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RockeyDA Established Member
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" April 8th 2019, 12:29 pm | |
| sounds to hard, dont even know how a spark plug will tell me, think ima rig somthg up so i can play with it while driving and do a mountan climb, i can send it full bore trying to get up mountnittany
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" April 8th 2019, 2:22 pm | |
| I think a tan colour indicates a nice clean burn. Black is rich, clean lean. "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
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RockeyDA Established Member
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" May 29th 2019, 9:50 am | |
| - RockeyDA wrote:
- really wish i could find a set of rings and new headgasket for this motor.
maybe some other rings off a newer briggs will fit, & 4 the headgasket just put RTV between head & Block that pushes Compression a tiny bit & will be sealing | |
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" May 29th 2019, 3:32 pm | |
| - RockeyDA wrote:
- NO i dont think therees any other biggs im going to find to take rings from, the cilinder is so big i can put my fist in it.
WTFH!! Welp then U can just send it LOL | |
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RockeyDA Established Member
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" May 30th 2019, 5:53 am | |
| - SebastianAlbrecht wrote:
- RockeyDA wrote:
- NO i dont think therees any other biggs im going to find to take rings from, the cilinder is so big i can put my fist in it.
WTFH!! Welp then U can just send it LOL send it were? small eng shop? | |
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" May 31st 2019, 2:14 pm | |
| - RockeyDA wrote:
- SebastianAlbrecht wrote:
- RockeyDA wrote:
- NO i dont think therees any other biggs im going to find to take rings from, the cilinder is so big i can put my fist in it.
WTFH!! Welp then U can just send it LOL send it were? small eng shop? Sending stuff means that U just run it til it blows up | |
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RockeyDA Established Member
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" June 1st 2019, 9:31 pm | |
| - SebastianAlbrecht wrote:
- RockeyDA wrote:
- SebastianAlbrecht wrote:
WTFH!! Welp then U can just send it LOL send it were? small eng shop? Sending stuff means that U just run it til it blows up so what? are you telling me to not put oil in it and destroy a motor that should be a cheepely saved motor? i mean theres no rod play and the wall looks pretty good, and i was able to save headgasket. if i could just find a new set of rings i would basicly have a new motor. | |
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SebastianAlbrecht Veteran Member
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" June 2nd 2019, 7:30 am | |
| - RockeyDA wrote:
- SebastianAlbrecht wrote:
- RockeyDA wrote:
send it were? small eng shop? Sending stuff means that U just run it til it blows up so what? are you telling me to not put oil in it and destroy a motor that should be a cheepely saved motor? i mean theres no rod play and the wall looks pretty good, and i was able to save headgasket. if i could just find a new set of rings i would basicly have a new motor. I send stuff as well, but I add Oil to my Oil Burners as well, cuz even do the Fact I send it instead of rebuilding it I want that stuff to last as long as possible with low maintenance & topping off Oil or changing it is not much work | |
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RockeyDA Established Member
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" June 2nd 2019, 9:39 am | |
| i dont think the 16hp briggs is going to have a big fail, i think its just going to keep loseing compression till its not derivable. | |
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" June 2nd 2019, 12:48 pm | |
| - RockeyDA wrote:
- i dont think the 16hp briggs is going to have a big fail, i think its just going to keep loseing compression till its not derivable.
thats what I mean, just Run it til U cant use it anymore! | |
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" June 2nd 2019, 4:04 pm | |
| Yeah, but you can damage the cylinder walls beyond repair this way. I think that you might have piston slap, and the longer you run it like that, the worse it gets and it's very expensive to repair. | |
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" June 3rd 2019, 9:53 am | |
| - Double W Cross Ranch wrote:
- Yeah, but you can damage the cylinder walls beyond repair this way. I think that you might have piston slap, and the longer you run it like that, the worse it gets and it's very expensive to repair.
is it worth it TJ?? That Engine worked hard since 70s & is on its time to go downhill. Same with my 93 Flathead.. no rod knock or anything, but a leaking crank seal & worn rings & no feeling to fix it even due the Face I have severar Rings lying around, just would need a new crank seal... | |
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| Subject: Re: 100$ Dation 16HP MTD 990 "Mud Train" June 5th 2019, 8:01 am | |
| Check out isavetractors.com, they have a $50 piston kit for the Briggs 320000 engines. "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
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