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PostSubject: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJune 29th 2017, 2:28 am

Hi everyone, Found these old Topfites. There both 8hp briggs but not sure if they will be any good for speed. They are both Chain drive, Belt from motor to FNR box then Chain from box to axel. really dig the look of them, would like to snuff an 18hp briggs or run a horizontal shaft 420cc to a jackshaft using a comet type clutch. Any suggestion's  would be great. Thank you and happy building. MTD TopFlites Dscf0011
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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJune 29th 2017, 8:17 am

That looks like a bigger version of Doc's Diesel Weasel. Sounds like a fun build.


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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJune 29th 2017, 8:30 am

Cool looking tractors! You could keep the vertical shaft engine and then just run a Peerless 700 to a live axle. Also I think it would look pretty wicked with an 18hp Briggs opposed stuffed in there!


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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJune 30th 2017, 3:51 pm

Cool little machines! Looks like they could make some awesome rat rod type things.

I would definitely go with what Alliskid said. A peerless 700 to a live axle if you're running the big 18hp

I think the trans you have in these may be a Foote 35. Redlinemotorsportts on here used one to build a mechanical winch. His had a stripped gear, but he didn't need it anyways. Supposedly MTD single speed trans parts interchange with it.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 12:31 am

Thanks guys, Yes I found a oppose twin 16hp and kind of snuffed it in, the axel is a peerless 141 I think. Just been plugging away on it with my son. Good family time.MTD TopFlites Dscf0013
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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 12:33 am

Wow, looks real nice! How did you drop the front end?


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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 12:41 am

Now that looks cool down in the grass like that. And the oppey's heads sticking out the sides is just icing on the cake. So how do you plan to do the exhaust?
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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 12:45 am

Thanks, the front is a spindle flip for now with collars, but want the use a tap and tap the ends of the steering spindels and use nyloc bolts instead of collars. As far as exhaust goes ill just wrap down and back just under the foot rails, so she be nice and loud lol.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 12:48 am

Sounds like a cool plan for exhaust. Does it still steer ok with the spindle flip?


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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 12:57 am

yeah it turns but it just grazes' the heads, the motor is just sitting in so I plan to do a little cutting near the top where the box sits. originally I wanted the have the engine sit verticle an have the carb stick out one side and two exhaust pipes run down one side but that is too much finagleing lol
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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 1:02 am

Looking good!  Love the stance. I've not done a spindle flip, but I have heard it wears on them pretty hard. Something you may want to keep an eye on. MTD TopFlites 2240318088


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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 1:06 am

Yeah its heavy up front
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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 1:10 am

Nice thing with the front axel is they use 3/8 thick flat bar by 4" wide. its heavy lol
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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 6:42 pm

That does look good!
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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 10:29 pm

Little update, not much just engine placement and a little paint.MTD TopFlites Dscf0014
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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 10:55 pm

If you're planning on speeding this up, why not weld the axle solid on top of the frame? You can tilt the axle back (add caster I think) and it'll help auto-center and steer better at speed. Plus you wont have a pivot to try and roll you. Looks good tho!
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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 11:04 pm

Oh I think I want one!
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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 11:16 pm

Thats a great idea Richie. think I'm gonna do that.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 11:20 pm

Wow this projects moving along pretty quick! Looks great! I agree with Rich about the steering though. A bit of positive caster would help steering a lot. I had a flipped axle on my rat rod at first but I recently built a custom front axle for it with postive caster and a wee bit of negative camber and it made a world of difference.


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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 11:40 pm

I totally agree with you both, I'm going to weld the axle solid and make a couple C style spindles for it.
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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 11:42 pm

Sounds like a plan man!


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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 9th 2017, 11:46 pm

Just curios but what do the pedals do?
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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeJuly 10th 2017, 1:04 am

Right pedal is brake, left is for the old veridrive but trying to locate a snowblower with the peerless 700 and dump the veridrive
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PostSubject: Re: MTD TopFlites   MTD TopFlites Icon_minitimeSeptember 5th 2017, 8:49 pm

Any new updates on this very cool tractor?


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