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| Subject: MTD - "Budgie" June 3rd 2018, 5:40 am | |
| So I picked up this MTD thingy at an auction the other day for $45. Has a peerless 2300 and (had) a 18hp oppy. Only good pic i have of it, its still at the auction here. RER i got in background too Basically immediately took out the oppy to put in my snapper RER so i dont have to deal with a twisted belt system.
Took the trans out and managed to get one rim off with the help of a torch, the other had to cut off with the angle grinder.
Stuff to do -fozzy lock trans(eventually) -put itps on -swap in 6.5 generac engine(honda clone) for now and get rid of belt twist -put a seat on it -prolly steal the headlights out of it for mutt lmao -weld frame where cracked, beef up frame while at it i guess -beef up front axle, im not making another lol -put the fugin clutch on the correct side this isnt england for frogs snacks(MOST IMPORTANT MOD) This is basically me building with what i have around with the aim to avoid all the mistakes and subsequent work that happened with mutt. "Budgie" is the name for now cause its 4:35am and i cant think of anything better and its a budget build ig idk also would you look at that steering tightener bolt mmmmm | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 3rd 2018, 8:40 am | |
| Nice project! 2300 is the cast iron trans, right? With the 6.5 and the 2300 it would make the ultimate long range tractor. The right side clutch pedal is a bit strange at first, but you will get used to it. The design of the clutch pedal looks like it won't be too hard to move to the left. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 3rd 2018, 9:11 am | |
| Generac is actually a name brand. Expensive generators and they’re on Dixie Choppers. Very good engines I believe though, so should be ok. Bit underpowered though eh...? | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 3rd 2018, 11:16 am | |
| Nah. 6.5 hp is pretty good for just messing around. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 3rd 2018, 11:28 am | |
| This generac came off a pressure washer. Will do nicely till i find a gx390 or maybe a vanny, something along those lines. Yeah she's cast iron, heavy as frig too.
Anybody know the gear ratios on these 2300s? I think i have a pretty narrow pulley selection at the moment and I'd like to know what speed I'm gonna get lol | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 3rd 2018, 12:18 pm | |
| No idea, pretty low, I will go out and get a ratio in about if you want | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 3rd 2018, 12:22 pm | |
| I mean i can go out and get a general gear ratio myself, but I'd like some more exact values lol | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 3rd 2018, 12:29 pm | |
| Here ya go Rich: 22.2:1 in 4th gear. Definitely some fairly low final drive ratios, but at least you know what they are now. "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 3rd 2018, 12:31 pm | |
| Holy hell, this thing is geared lower than i thought! Lol | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 3rd 2018, 12:47 pm | |
| Oh my, that first gear is insane. I didn't know my JD was that slow. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 3rd 2018, 2:02 pm | |
| Yeah, hope i can still get 15mph out of er lol | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 3rd 2018, 2:43 pm | |
| - Double W Cross Ranch wrote:
- Oh my, that first gear is
insane. I didn't know my JD was that slow. Well yours has the variable-speed too, which boost the speed a bit most likely. I know my cousins 110 moves pretty decent in 4th hi. "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 3rd 2018, 4:40 pm | |
| Have a VERY similar tractor myself, but 16 hp. The gearing is pretty low and the stock belt twist sucks, so I am in the process of copying Mighty's Kal-El design. You won't have any trouble with the clutch. just clamp it in place, chop it, and weld it to the other side. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 3rd 2018, 6:03 pm | |
| Yep, looks like i just gotta cut the welds and switch it around. Cake. Took some mower mounts off and getting the trans back in | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 3rd 2018, 11:15 pm | |
| Well she's back on four wheels at least. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 4th 2018, 9:40 am | |
| Interesting drive thingy. Is that a early design of the stupid *** vari drive system all mtd mowers are blessed with? | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 4th 2018, 11:22 am | |
| No varidrive. Has a jackshaft in the middle that clutches both belts. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 10th 2018, 6:10 pm | |
| If you give me a tire size I can work up some top speed calculations for you. Do you plan on going un-governed? | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 10th 2018, 6:18 pm | |
| Looks like if you run the same sizes as Ol' Red which is 6" engine, 5" trans, you'll top out at 14 mph @3600 rpm. You could overrev it to get more speed. Of course you'll here some funny noises over driving the transmission. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 10th 2018, 6:46 pm | |
| Lmao I'm not unfamiliar with those funny noises.
No progress on this thing, i gotta do this whole huge tire switch fiasco that I'm not looking forward to. Also these front rims have plastic bushings but no grease fitting, so i gotta figure out what I'm doing with that. And the frame has to be welded, and a mounting plate needs to be arranged for the new 6.5. That's just the big stuff that i can think of right now. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 17th 2018, 9:06 pm | |
| Um no progress besides the puddles around both of the rear tires lol. Seems the axle seals are 100% ineffective | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 20th 2018, 12:53 am | |
| Figured out where i want her to sit. About 1° backwards lean, rather than the 1° forward lean it had before. Just kinda sitting on the front axle bolt. Haven't figured out how exactly I'll mount it yet, i have some ideas tho. Frame cracks. Harder to see since i pounded the frame straight. Cut away a bit for the steering arm, it couldnt travel enough before, when adjusted to steer fully in both directions. Kind of a tight spot to run a belt. That rod going down will come out anyways(deck thing) and the spring can be moved. So tomorrow I'll do some welding and bracing. Oh, and steering stops are a must. Also a engine mount plate is something that needs figured out soon. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 20th 2018, 11:28 am | |
| Nice! The new stance looks meaner for sure. "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
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