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PostSubject: Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.    Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 11th 2022, 6:39 pm

I realized that I have another mower on the property. I’m storing it for a friend. If it is useful, I may try to buy it from him.
It is a Craftsman 42” rider, with a 15 HP Kohler and what appears to be an 800 series 6 speed transaxle. It is surrounded by other junk, so I can’t lift it to see under it. It is a 917.252600 according to the tag. I can’t find a manual or much on parts. If it IS an 800 something, I want to try and buy it.

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PostSubject: Re: Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.    Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 11th 2022, 7:28 pm

Have any pictures to help narrow it down? Looks to be a lt4000, or maybe a yt4000 but I can be sure. I see the trouble you're having with the number


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PostSubject: Re: Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.    Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 11th 2022, 8:30 pm

Goofy number. The only one they ever made!

I will get some pics tomorrow, including the tag.
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PostSubject: Re: Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.    Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 11th 2022, 9:02 pm

Sure is, best I've found so far isn't downloadable as a full manual but you can save each page.

https://www.searspartsdirect.com/model/5zsbeyrl18-000247/craftsman-917252600-front-engine-lawn-tractor-parts


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- "The WarHorse" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Romping in Progress!)
- Roper "Trailblazer" ~ 1986 Roper LT110CR (Trailblazing in Progress!)
- The "Mud Duck" ~ 1969 Bolens 1225 Hydro (2022 Build Off 2nd place!)
- The "Silver Bullet" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Part 1)
- The "Silver Bullet" (Take 2) ~ 2024 Build Off entry (Work in progress)
- Roper "Offroadster" ~ 1979 Roper T4328 (Romping in Progress!)
- 1973 Massey Ferguson MF12 ~ (Sold to a good home)



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PostSubject: Re: Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.    Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 11th 2022, 9:28 pm

I found that one too. Doesn’t seem to be the same. Thanks though. I will get pics and try a reverse image search. I’m pretty sure I wrote the number down correctly. A photo will prove what is right. I found another reference that showed a different trans.

It is more like this: but engine says 15.5

https://www.bidnow.us/lots/63640#&gid=1&pid=1

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PostSubject: Re: Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.    Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 11th 2022, 10:14 pm

Ok, giving up for the night. I think you are right about the LT4000 @brianator, and I will guess spicer 6 speed transaxle.
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PostSubject: Re: Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.    Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 12th 2022, 12:04 am

Based on "the hard way" research I've done so far it looks to be AYP built and I've found 4 possibilities on the transaxle with tractors with the 15.5hp Kohler
1)A Hydrostatic transaxle in which the tractor has a manual PTO clutch (lever?)
2) A Peerless 930-057A (6 speed) in which the tractor has a manual PTO clutch (lever?)
3)A Dana 4360 (6 speed) in which the tractor has an electric PTO clutch
4) A Peerless 206-545C (6 speed) with an idler PTO clutch (pedal I assume)

There is also a 15hp, Kohler, 6 speed, AYP built tractor again with the Peerless 930-057A with a manual PTO clutch.

They range in years between 1996 and 99, they all have a 42" cut.

There's also a 15.5hp, 6 speed with a 42" cut built in 1994 but there's no engine or transaxle make listed... no picture either.

Based on the fact you believe it has a Spicer would make me think the one with the Dana(Spicer) is the closest bet. 917.25660 which is listed as "Craftsman 3in1, 15.5HP, 42", Automatic Lawn tractor" and of course I can't find a manual for it either!  Lol

So that's all I got for now, the more info and pictures you can provide is the better (including engine sticker), I have a feeling yours is a special edition or a half year,  possibly even made to be sold through a specific retailer?


My All Terrain Tractors:
- "The WarHorse" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Romping in Progress!)
- Roper "Trailblazer" ~ 1986 Roper LT110CR (Trailblazing in Progress!)
- The "Mud Duck" ~ 1969 Bolens 1225 Hydro (2022 Build Off 2nd place!)
- The "Silver Bullet" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Part 1)
- The "Silver Bullet" (Take 2) ~ 2024 Build Off entry (Work in progress)
- Roper "Offroadster" ~ 1979 Roper T4328 (Romping in Progress!)
- 1973 Massey Ferguson MF12 ~ (Sold to a good home)



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PostSubject: Re: Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.    Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 12th 2022, 12:09 am

LOL, what a bowl of spaghetti. I said spicer because of a manual I found. Hopefully we can pin it down tomorrow.
Thanks for all the info.
I’m hoping it is a peerless 206 axle.

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PostSubject: Re: Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.    Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 12th 2022, 3:39 pm

OK, lots of pics. It is an LT4000, with a 15 HP Kohler engine. The trans appears to be a Peerless 930 from what little I can see of it by holding the iPad under the tractor. I am going to try to talk the owner out of the machine, looks good from what I can see. I know he was running it before he moved away.

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The part of the transaxle case visible in the pic looks like the 930, rather distinctive.
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PostSubject: Re: Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.    Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 12th 2022, 3:57 pm

OMG OMG!!! I texted my friend about the mower and he GAVE it to me! I know it was given to him just before we moved here, so he passed it along. HOOAH. I will dig it out and look it over, maybe today or tomorrow. It is seriously crammed into a pile of stuff and I can hardly walk around it. The real tractor will get it out for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.    Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 12th 2022, 4:56 pm

Looks like the mower was made in November of 1994 and the engine was made earlier that fall.
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PostSubject: Re: Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.    Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 12th 2022, 8:17 pm

It's a kohler, it will run.  Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.  2731072446

I've been looking for one of those grills for about 3 months now.  Nice machine!  So confused by the transaxle pic for some reason.  LOL


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I probably won’t use the grill, and it is cracked at the bottom, but repairable.

I’m confused about the transaxle too. I have found manuals for similar machines and find Dana and Peerless MST axles, but not a word about a 930 and it sure looks like one. If I can get it out of the pile tomorrow, I should be able to raise it up with the tractor and read the tag if it is still on the axle. At least I can get a good pic.

The (now) previous owner Very Happy says it runs good and to give it full choke for starting. Battery is dead now though.
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PostSubject: Re: Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.    Need help identifying a rig and finding a manual.  Icon_minitimeFebruary 13th 2022, 9:14 am

Congratulations on the tractor! What are you planning to do with it?


My All Terrain Tractors:
- "The WarHorse" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Romping in Progress!)
- Roper "Trailblazer" ~ 1986 Roper LT110CR (Trailblazing in Progress!)
- The "Mud Duck" ~ 1969 Bolens 1225 Hydro (2022 Build Off 2nd place!)
- The "Silver Bullet" ~ 1984 Sears Craftsman LT(V)11 (MTD Built) (Part 1)
- The "Silver Bullet" (Take 2) ~ 2024 Build Off entry (Work in progress)
- Roper "Offroadster" ~ 1979 Roper T4328 (Romping in Progress!)
- 1973 Massey Ferguson MF12 ~ (Sold to a good home)



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I hope to drag it out today and look it over. I am thinking about putting the Square Body sheet metal on it and using the two of them for my Build-off starting point. That way I can preserve the LT1000 that is now my donor machine for that. I would like to keep it like it is, but I didn’t have another viable rig when I signed up for the Build-off. We will see!
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So, thanks for the help on this one. I will stop derailing my own thread and start a thread on the LT4000. Very Happy

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