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PostSubject: Re: "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter   "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter - Page 2 Icon_minitimeAugust 9th 2023, 2:44 pm

I'd be happy to write up some intsructions to help you but it will take me a while so I'll have to do it after work but here's some things to keep in mind and a list of what you'll need.

- Not all keys are "wired" the same which brings me to my next point...
- you'll want a multimeter and know how to use it. I prefer ones with an audible continuity tester for ease of use.
- make sure you have some spare wiring kicking around, you can probably use wiring from the interlocks as you'll want to bypass most of if not all of them anyhow.
- soldering and heatshrinking wires is best but if you're not able you'll want some butt connectors on hand or at the very least small wire nuts (marrett caps) and some electrical tape to tape up the joints.
- look to see of your carburetor has the anti-backfire valve (wired). If it does you can either wire it up if it works properly and if it doesn't you can cut the plunger off, either way it's a good idea to have a shutoff valve on the fuel line.
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PostSubject: Re: "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter   "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter - Page 2 Icon_minitimeAugust 9th 2023, 3:19 pm

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@MightyRaze
The post on the starter is indeed what I mean. Not sure if it was a great ifea but thats how I got it to start. Thanks for the grounding tip. There are got a lot of bad/ broken wires I just need to sort them out then I need a key switch. I have a spare solenoid in case. I am pretty sure its a 3 wire set up if I remeber right.

Ok, cool.
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PostSubject: Re: "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter   "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter - Page 2 Icon_minitimeAugust 9th 2023, 8:11 pm

@Brianator 
If you would do such a thing that would be great! But if that sounds like too much work I can find a diagram or maybe ask some peoples I know. So Any help is welcomed but I dont want to seems as I am aski g of too much I just have no experience with wiring.

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PostSubject: Re: "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter   "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter - Page 2 Icon_minitimeAugust 9th 2023, 10:09 pm

Yes I would but unfortunately not tonight, I got caught up helping a neighbor after work then *forced* into bbq and beer! Lol.

For me not so much work it just takes me a long time to type it all out as I'm on mobile.

Question: Do you have the original key switch for the tractor that plugs into the harness? If so that's going to make things much easier on you!

I forgot to comment on the jumping the starter thing earlier, it works and is no big deal but you can also jump the 2 big posts on the starter solenoid with a screwdriver to turn the engine over, follow the battery wire from the starter and you'll find the solenoid.



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1969 MTD Seven Hundred (Running/Driving ~ Light Yard Duty)
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1973 Cub Cadet 149 (Saved from Impending Doom ~ Tinkering In Progress)
1974 Bolens G10 (1055) (Running/Cutting/Snow Throwing ~ General Workhorse)
1984 Sears (MTD) LT(V)11 "The Warhorse" (Offroad Trail Rig ~ Romping In Progress)
1984 Sears (MTD) LT(V)11 "Silver Bullet" (2023 Build Off Entry ~ Work In Progress)
1986 Roper LT110CR "Trailblazer" (Offroad Trail Mower Project  ~ Work In Progress)

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PostSubject: Re: "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter   "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter - Page 2 Icon_minitimeAugust 9th 2023, 10:31 pm

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I wished I was forced into BBQ! It's no prob as I cant work on it for a few days anyway. I unfortunately do not as it was in pieces; I have all of the pieces still so maybe I can test them enough to find a proper replacement? by different pieces I mean I have a sort of clock spring, the end that plugs into the harness then the key cylinder. Maybe I can put them Humpty back together again? lol
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PostSubject: Re: "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter   "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter - Page 2 Icon_minitimeAugust 9th 2023, 10:47 pm

I will say he was pretty insistant to repay me for helping him and I didn't want to be rude so ya... lol.

Find your starter solenoid and post a pic or 2, this starting/stopping issue could be only a push button and toggle switch away from working


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1969 Bolens 1225 (194) "Mud Duck" (2022 Build Off Finalist ~ Work Still In Progress)
1973 Cub Cadet 149 (Saved from Impending Doom ~ Tinkering In Progress)
1974 Bolens G10 (1055) (Running/Cutting/Snow Throwing ~ General Workhorse)
1984 Sears (MTD) LT(V)11 "The Warhorse" (Offroad Trail Rig ~ Romping In Progress)
1984 Sears (MTD) LT(V)11 "Silver Bullet" (2023 Build Off Entry ~ Work In Progress)
1986 Roper LT110CR "Trailblazer" (Offroad Trail Mower Project  ~ Work In Progress)

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PostSubject: Re: "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter   "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter - Page 2 Icon_minitimeAugust 9th 2023, 11:15 pm

@Brianator
Sounds good I will when the sunshine's!
Also, if I can if it's not too much extra work, I would like a key switch just for resale value in case this tractor goes up for sale in the future. It's not too much of a worry as it would be best just to be working but yea.
Thanks for everything! Smile
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Here ya go! How about 5! The little toggle is hooked thru the yeller wire to the solenoid.
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PostSubject: Re: "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter   "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter - Page 2 Icon_minitimeAugust 11th 2023, 11:08 am

AYE!  She's been hacked pretty good.  If it were mine, I'd redo all the wiring.  The link above looks like it has a good match for a wiring diagram.  You might could get it all spiced back together.  Unfortunately it is one of those things you can give better guidance looking at it "personally".  We'll do what we can.

PS: As for slow starter, that cable is pretty tarnished and the posts on the solonoid are pretty rusty.  As well as the base.  Bad ground probably there.


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     Dirty Rat....77 Sears Suburban
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PostSubject: Re: "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter   "Scrappy" MTD 18/46 14 Speed Grass Cutter - Page 2 Icon_minitimeAugust 11th 2023, 11:29 am

I was also thinking about the slow starter issue.  It could be a slipped magnet (especially if dropped) or just need some cleanup inside.

Good one for fixing that.
https://www.atltf.com/t5959-prancstaman-s-awesome-starter-rebuild


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     Dirty Rat....77 Sears Suburban
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@MightyRaze Yea she's bad! Makes Putt Putt's wiring look brand new!
Yea I think I will redo it all and make a simple harness using some toggles and a big push button start I have in my in my stash.
I will try and save the solonoid if not I will get one on order.

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Oh ya that looks a mess! Lol. The good news is rewiring that tractor would be pretty simple! Looks like a 3 wire solenoid which means the metal on the body is ground, have you tried putting 12v to the small terminal yet? If there's no click/it doesn't engage the motor then it's toast =(


My Tractors:
1969 MTD Seven Hundred (Running/Driving ~ Light Yard Duty)
1969 Bolens 1225 (194) "Mud Duck" (2022 Build Off Finalist ~ Work Still In Progress)
1973 Cub Cadet 149 (Saved from Impending Doom ~ Tinkering In Progress)
1974 Bolens G10 (1055) (Running/Cutting/Snow Throwing ~ General Workhorse)
1984 Sears (MTD) LT(V)11 "The Warhorse" (Offroad Trail Rig ~ Romping In Progress)
1984 Sears (MTD) LT(V)11 "Silver Bullet" (2023 Build Off Entry ~ Work In Progress)
1986 Roper LT110CR "Trailblazer" (Offroad Trail Mower Project  ~ Work In Progress)

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Well, I got one of Scrappy's new tires on!
The other seemed to have a small leak it since it was late, I left it off the tractor and this mornin it didn't leak, so I have two brand new tires ready to be installed! Also, it runs 1 inch axles so I think this trans will be very robust! I will post a pic once I get them both on.

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