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Subject: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity June 13th 2016, 8:35 pm
Hey everyone, as I have mentioned on some other topics I've picked up a Simplicity recently. It's a 1989 4212 with a briggs 28 cubic inch 12 horse flatty and a peerless 801 5 speed rear end. I don't have any pics from when I got it, but it didn't have a hood, dash, seat, fuel tank, or deck (deck came with it but wasn't attached). When TheGreenHornet came we tied a gas tank to the steering wheel, drained the carb bowl, and it fired right up. We rode it around the neighborhood and got some of the strangest looks
My plan for this machine is as follows:
7 inch pulley on the front, stock rear heavy duty hitch snow plow and eventually better tires.
This will be a utility tractor. pulling a spreader planting food plots in our hunting farms in Ohio and Kentucky, pushing snow, hauling fire wood, and just general work.
Today I went and got the dash, seat, and gas tank. I'll trade the old weedeater hood for the stock simplicity hood. I've got it mostly put together.
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity June 14th 2016, 7:03 pm
Hey guys, quick little update on the simplicity. I went and traded the green weedeater hood for the original hood. The guy I got it from had it on his 1998 craftsman. Talk about creative...
And here she is with the hood on, finally.
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity June 15th 2016, 2:05 am
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity June 15th 2016, 10:48 am
I think the stock hood kind of makes it look like a baby Sears. The grill and general shape of the hoods are pretty similar. The fenders are wrong though...
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity June 15th 2016, 5:09 pm
She's a neat wee tractor. I think it has roughly the same running gear as my Westwood T1200, 12hp Briggs and a Peerless 801. It even has the whole right foot clutch thing, bit tricky at first isn't it?
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity June 15th 2016, 10:24 pm
Yeah the CQ is the same way. It takes a lot of getting used to when you have a foot throttle for sure! But I think I'm keeping the dash throttle setup. It works for what I want and I don't need to build one. But for the belt routing, since I got a bigger front pulley and stock rear, I have to take the belt over the tierod, between the axle mounts, and it's just a pain in the arse. I'll get a walk around video showing how it used to go vs. how I have it, and a general walk around up soon
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity June 16th 2016, 5:38 pm
Nice. What speed are you looking for? Are you going to add some things like bumpers/etc?
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity June 16th 2016, 7:11 pm
I'm looking for roughly 10-15 mph and I think I've achieved that. I drove it for the first time today and am working on the video right now. I may ad functional bumpers later, but we'll see. I'm calling this build done, but they are never finished.
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity June 21st 2016, 10:15 pm
Hey everyone, it took a few tries but the video is finally posted! I will apologize now for my horrible filming skills and the mediocre lighting
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity August 18th 2016, 8:17 pm
Just a little progress report since I've last posted.
Carb was gone through and rebuilt with parts from the good ol' hh11 build. New heavy duty hitch made of 1/8 inch angle iron held on with 6 7/16 inch bolts.
Pics coming as soon as I get my computer!
Other than some Ag tires, I'm calling this project pretty much done
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity August 19th 2016, 9:45 am
Nice work man, looking forward to seeing pictures. Any plans for the exhaust etc?
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity August 19th 2016, 9:53 am
pretty sure stock exhaust is staying. It's nice and quiet for a work machine. I dont want a lot of noise in the woods/fields we hunt in and definitely not while I'm plowing snow (I still need to build that....)
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity August 19th 2016, 10:03 am
Ah right yeah
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity August 22nd 2016, 10:14 pm
Finally, as promised, pics of the finished hitch. 1/8th inch angle iron. Its pretty solid.
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity August 28th 2016, 8:26 pm
Slight little issue...I was picking up heavy loads of wet grass with the leaf sweeper in second and she starts grinding bad. I think 2nd is gone. Ever since I got it, the transaxle hummed. I knew it had an issue, but I think I pushed it too far. I shut it off as soon as I heard the grinding and pushed it back to the barn. I'll tear into it this winter sometime. I don't think the case is cracked.
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity August 30th 2016, 6:45 am
I run an 801 and mine has always made serious whine in 3rd/4th and 5th but still keeps going. Maybe you chipped a tooth on the 2nd gear.
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity December 19th 2016, 6:33 pm
Hey guys, its been a while since I've posted on this one...She's all put back together I think. I took it apart and couldn't really find anything wrong. There was some rust on the shifter and axle shafts, and the grease had chunks of rust in it like sand. All of that is bad, but not necessarily what i expected. I expected to see 2nd gear snapped in two, or at least some sheared off shift keys. Nothing. So I took the shifter, gearset, and bottom case from the 801 from my best buddy's ranch king, and mated it with the differential and top case from this 801. We made a big mess, but hopefully wound up with two transaxles that will function.
So the simplicity is frankensteined back together, but I haven't test driven it yet. I don't really feel like messing with it since it's been -3 here lately (Fahrenheit).
Shout out to @TheGreenHornet for helping me get this thing back together and even donating some parts off his King. You da man E
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity December 20th 2016, 1:14 am
I remember reading somewhere that a guy's shift keys in his 820 were worn out just enough to not give him reverse. If I were you I'd buy a new set of them to be safe. But I'm me
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity December 20th 2016, 1:58 am
I find 800 series transaxles make more than their fair share of noise when chugging along. Ive never had mine whine in second (but i hardly use second lol) but in fourth and fifth i can hear mine whine. Especially if you get on it hard and quick, mine hates heavy acceleration.
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity December 20th 2016, 8:04 am
Yeah I would hear it whining in the lower gears just a little bit, but in the higher gears you could hear it over the engine
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity December 20th 2016, 2:00 pm
Nice man! Hopefully that works out for ya, what are your plans for it now that you fixed the trans?
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity December 20th 2016, 2:55 pm
I think I'm going to use it as-is for now. I finally picked up a cart to pull with it, and the spreader is on the farm in Kentucky. Eventually, maybe sometime this summer, Ag tires and a snow plow mount. I really like the lug spacing on @Tractorhead's roper tires, so I'll probably go with something similar....but smaller lol
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity February 3rd 2017, 1:27 pm
Here is a video of it last summer when I drove it through the pond. I forgot to turn the fuel back on before driving it in so once the float bowl emptied it shut off. Thats where the video starts.
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity October 18th 2017, 9:53 pm
Howdy fellers!!! I got the trans back in a long time ago and stuffed it in the corner without even testing it lol. But today I got it out!! The CQ is down at the new house and we needed something to pull the sweeper around to pick up grass. The hydro in grandmas craftsman just isn't up to it. So I dug it out and went through the carb, it was clean so I put it on and it fired up first pull...gotta love a Briggs!! Anyway I'm excited to have it back and I think ill be taking it to Kentucky soon to use down there and might have my brother take it on a romp with me and the CQ!
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Subject: Re: CraftsmanQuad19's Simplicity October 18th 2017, 10:39 pm
Nice CQ! Gonna try any mods with the ol' Simplicity now that she's up and running again?
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