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Crazy_Carl Core Member


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Age : 34 Join date : 2017-10-30 Points : 4649 Posts : 2434 Location : Rochester, New York
![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 11th 2018, 12:16 pm | |
| I stumbled across a couple of good finds on craigslist last night, picked up parts this morning, and now I'm entering a 1962 Wheel Horse Model 702 that I'm turning into a mud/rally tractor named "Mud Rat". ![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Img_1822](https://i.servimg.com/u/f62/19/80/09/13/img_1822.jpg) ![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Img_1823](https://i.servimg.com/u/f62/19/80/09/13/img_1823.jpg) ![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Img_1824](https://i.servimg.com/u/f62/19/80/09/13/img_1824.jpg) Here is my build plan: -Wheel Horses usually have Kohler engines so I found this 196cc OHV Kohler engine I'm going to put in it. -control the throttle via a gas pedal -the shafts turn on the transaxle but it's stuck in gear so I'm going to soak it in diesel to see if I can free it up -acquire and paint front rims for it -paint the wider rear rims I have for it that are off a later model Wheel Horse -feed the motor from the stock gas tank -replace broken steering gear -repair worn out spinldes -I bought the tractor in pieces and I've never worked on a Wheel Horse from this era so I'm starting from the ground up -23" or 25"atvs tires in the rear -16" or 18" atv tires up front -build front bumper -build or find a rear drawbar -custom exhaust, most likely a nice looking stack Maybe List (money and time permitting): -I love the way the old hood, dash, and fenders look in their current state, but I might paint the frame -add alternator and electrical system with lights -install a custom front axle with suspension -Approved by Doug, 2/13/2018
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Crazy_Carl Core Member


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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 13th 2018, 6:54 pm | |
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MightyRaze Administrator


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Age : 48 Join date : 2016-09-06 Points : 13402 Posts : 9481 Location : Oklahoma
![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 13th 2018, 7:28 pm | |
| Not bad. One gear is a little worn. Not bad. | |
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Crazy_Carl Core Member


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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 14th 2018, 6:37 am | |
| Here's an idea of what I'm going for here. ![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] A884f310](https://i.servimg.com/u/f62/19/80/09/13/a884f310.jpg) Original red body work, Black frame and axles, except I would like to go with silver rims or maybe something else. I'd like some ideas on rim color. The front and rear tires have been picked out. The front of this thing is getting some kind of suspension. Possibly a triangulated four link. rear tiresfront tires | |
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MightyRaze Administrator


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Age : 48 Join date : 2016-09-06 Points : 13402 Posts : 9481 Location : Oklahoma
![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 14th 2018, 8:40 am | |
| Sounds super cool Carl! Love the tires you picked. | |
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CraftsmanQuad19 Veteran Member


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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 14th 2018, 8:56 am | |
| Wow the larger rear tires come out cheaper than the fronts. Those are some sweet tires for the money | |
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Crazy_Carl Core Member


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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 14th 2018, 9:28 am | |
| You’ll never guess who found the deal on the rear tires... BEAL! | |
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mrshaft696 Established Member


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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 14th 2018, 10:18 am | |
| Its a pretty neat pile of parts | |
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Age : 48 Join date : 2016-09-06 Points : 13402 Posts : 9481 Location : Oklahoma
![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 14th 2018, 10:26 am | |
| - Crazy_Carl wrote:
- You’ll never guess who found the deal on the rear tires... BEAL!
I got my huge rear tires for just a couple bucks less plus Free Shipping  25x11x12 | |
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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 14th 2018, 12:36 pm | |
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Crazy_Carl Core Member


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Age : 34 Join date : 2017-10-30 Points : 4649 Posts : 2434 Location : Rochester, New York
![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 19th 2018, 5:51 pm | |
| I started getting the gears and housings cleaned up today for the transaxle. When my arms started to get tired of scrapping gasket material I decided to make a top speed calculator in numbers. With a 5" engine pulley I'll top out around 13 mph in 3rd gear and 5 mph in 1st gear. Seems pretty good to me. ![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Screen10](https://i.servimg.com/u/f62/19/80/09/13/screen10.png) If anyone wants help doing something like this in excel or numbers let me know. | |
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RichieRichOverdrive Veteran Member


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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 19th 2018, 6:16 pm | |
| Cool calculator. wallaceracing.com has a speed calculator I think, but you gotta do some of the work yourself because of the pulley ratio. | |
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Crazy_Carl Core Member


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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 19th 2018, 7:35 pm | |
| Thanks I tried to make this one really user friendly and it's designed for mud mowers! | |
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prancstaman Core Member


Join date : 2015-02-02 Points : 4562 Posts : 1412 Location : Cleveland,Ohio
![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 21st 2018, 7:12 pm | |
| Plenty of teeth left in those gears, LOL. Maybe take a file to the edges and knock off the burrs on the teeth and you'll be good. | |
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Crazy_Carl Core Member


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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 21st 2018, 8:03 pm | |
| - prancstaman wrote:
- Plenty of teeth left in those gears, LOL. Maybe take a file to the edges and knock off the burrs on the teeth and you'll be good.
That's exactly what I did. I'm almost ready for re-assembly. I have the case halves cleaned up, but I want to paint them. The gears are all cleaned up and the locked diff carrier is bolted back together. I have the new gasket and shift boot, and the seals shipped today. I managed to get my circa 1962 trans pulley off. The set screw was so rusted it wouldn't budge at all even after soaking and wire brushing it, but I soaked the shaft too. After waiting a day the pulley pulled right off. I really like castle thrust. | |
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Double W Cross Ranch Veteran Member


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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 21st 2018, 8:58 pm | |
| What kinda ratio you going for? | |
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Crazy_Carl Core Member


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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 21st 2018, 9:11 pm | |
| Either a five and a five or a 5 on the trans and a 6 on the motor. I was thinking about re-using the factory 4" trans pulley but the keyway is really sloppy and the set screw is rusted in. It's only a 4" anyway and a lot of guys say anything under 5" likes to slip in water or mud. | |
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Double W Cross Ranch Veteran Member


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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 21st 2018, 9:16 pm | |
| Idk, I've seen people run 3" pulleys just fine. Depends on how much clutch friction you have. | |
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Crazy_Carl Core Member


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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 23rd 2018, 7:36 am | |
| I have the new seals in the transmission so after I paint the case halves I’m going to assemble it. I ended up going with these for my front tires. new front tires They’re very popular and the price is great. What do you guys think of them? | |
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Double W Cross Ranch Veteran Member


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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 23rd 2018, 9:36 am | |
| Mmmm...nice looking tires. Price is definitely good! | |
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Crazy_Carl Core Member


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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 23rd 2018, 6:14 pm | |
| Before... ![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Img_1833](https://i.servimg.com/u/f62/19/80/09/13/img_1833.jpg) After! ![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Img_1834](https://i.servimg.com/u/f62/19/80/09/13/img_1834.jpg) If all goes according to plan I will assemble it tomorrow. | |
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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 23rd 2018, 6:45 pm | |
| Looks like new- excited to see where this build will go. Keep it up! | |
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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 23rd 2018, 7:12 pm | |
| Case halves look great Carl!  "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss *I have 21 tractors and over 40 chainsaws, I need help* | |
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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 23rd 2018, 7:48 pm | |
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![Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] Empty](https://2img.net/i/empty.gif) | Subject: Re: Crazy_Carl's Wheel Horse Mud Rat [2018 Build-Off Entry] February 23rd 2018, 11:16 pm | |
| Nice! They do look good all painted up! | |
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