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Subject: Allis 716 Off-Road Build Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:17 pm
Well I've officially decided my MTD rebuild is a no-go, so it's about time I built another tractor to take it's place. I had one in the tractor collection I figured would be perfect.
My '76 Alls-Chalmers 716 6-speed! I figured it's a nice looking tractor with a real solid frame, trans, axle, steering etc. Also it's a nice change from all the Sears and Wheel Horses.
Anyways here it is after some tire swapping:
The front are off the MTD and are staying on the Allis, but the rears are off the GT. They're only there until the actual rear tires come in. I also wanted to reuse the bumper from the MTD and add a 3000 lbs winch.
Burned it right to the front of the frame
Got the winch on too and wired it up. Looks kinda messy but I got everything zip-tied so it can't move around.
Controller on the dash next to the range selector:
I also did a simple hood mod so it's just a quick release deal.
Works good!
Gonna be a real fun build, I'm really liking it already. I'm hopefully going to work at it some more today so I'll try to keep the updates going.
_______________________________________________ "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill
- MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!*
- Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss
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Rustbucket Garage Screwdriver
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Subject: Re: Allis 716 Off-Road Build Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:23 pm
Nice looking tractor! I think that there was a simplicity that was similar to this with a limited slip diff. I think this could work out in your favor.
AllisKidD21 Moderator
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Subject: Re: Allis 716 Off-Road Build Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:11 pm
Thanks! The Allis tractors were actually made by Simplicity, but I don't they had them in the 700/7000 series.
_______________________________________________ "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill
Age : 22 Join date : 2016-07-10 Posts : 5105 Forum Rep : 272 Location : Ontario Canada
Subject: Re: Allis 716 Off-Road Build Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:58 am
Thanks Mighty. Yeah she's done for, but parts of it will live on in this build.
Did a little exhaust tinkering yesterday, not 100% sure I'm happy with it, but we'll see. First off I removed the entire front PTO clutch assembly:
It will be swapped over to my 710. Then the exhaust
Little on the sort side so it's pretty loud, but if I keep it I'll extend it to go under the footboard. I also added a steering stop so the tire does not hit on the pipe.
Then of course I took it for a little ride afterwards, nothing crazy though just driving around in the snow basically.
Obviously some stuff I'd like to change, but I'm liking it so far!
_______________________________________________ "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill
The Allis is looking like a winner! You going to keep the font pivot, or are you eventually going to "update" the front in @AllisKidD21 fashion?
Haha, believe it or not there's no plans for suspension at this time, the front axle setup on these is so heavy duty I don't even wanna change it. I do think it needs some custom steering though, maybe even the truck steering box out of the MTD?
_______________________________________________ "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill
Thanks Mighty. Yeah she's done for, but parts of it will live on in this build.
I am officially hurt.
I kinda wanna buy whatever's left of the MTD from ya, but NC to Canada..... I don't think so.
AllisKidD21 Moderator
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Subject: Re: Allis 716 Off-Road Build Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:28 am
Man I was under the impression nobody even liked it, haha.
I'll keep the frame around, you never know. I need something to do when I'm 70.
_______________________________________________ "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill
Man I was under the impression nobody even liked it, haha.
I'll keep the frame around, you never know. I need something to do when I'm 70.
Yeah, You showed that you could take an old Yard Machine and make it capable and cool. It'll be missed.
LOL, yeah. I kinda put it in the same class I put Red in. The ATLTF "Seniors Class." LOL. That's the class I put Lil Red, MUTT, AK's MTD, Ol' Red, Redline's MTD, etc in. Shame to see her go but I guess she had her run!
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I guess good machines have to retire sometimes.. not to get off topic but when doc scrapped mule II I was pretty blue... can’t blame him though, his machine after all. I got a fondness for the old square fenders I guess. That’s enough of my thread jack lol. On another note, that last picture looks really cool! I humbly suggest that you enter that in the next cool tractor picture competition.
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AllisKidD21 Moderator
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Well thanks fellas. I'm likely going to miss the ol' war horse, but at least parts of 'er will live on in this build.
_______________________________________________ "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill
The truck steering box would be nice! Nice and heavy built! I'm liking the progress so far!
AllisKidD21 Moderator
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Subject: Re: Allis 716 Off-Road Build Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:38 pm
Thanks Blake!
Well I had the ol' girl out again this weekend:
Still a snowy mess but were able to make it to one of the trails and ride it. Had lots of fun!
One thing I wanted to do though was increase my speed in high range a bit, so I took 'er all apart and swapped the trans pulley out for smaller one.
Had to make a belt guard, inside a belt guard!
Found a belt that fit and she worked great!
I'm happy with the speed increase. Quick enough for some fun but not enough that I'm gonna overspeed the ol' trans. It feels very comfortable at the current top speed.
The nice thing about this setup is that swapping the high range pulleys doesn't affect the low range, so I still have my super crawler gear. Pretty nice.
_______________________________________________ "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill
Age : 22 Join date : 2016-07-10 Posts : 5105 Forum Rep : 272 Location : Ontario Canada
Subject: Re: Allis 716 Off-Road Build Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:31 am
It's a cool setup for sure. When you press the clutch in and move the range selector it slides the clutch idler from side to side. Then when you release the clutch it tensions the belt for the speed you selected. Pretty neat, it works great too.
_______________________________________________ "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill