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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 26th 2022, 8:19 am

mesure once cut twice! LOL

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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 26th 2022, 10:35 am

Measure twice, cut three times, cuss out the fact your tool is walking, fill holes with the welder, cuss again cause the steel warped, throw away the part and repeat the process. Story of my life lol

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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 26th 2022, 10:57 am

As in my signature:

“We do it right, because we do it twice!” - TheBeal

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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 26th 2022, 11:36 am

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Measure twice, cut three times, cuss out the fact your tool is walking, fill holes with the welder, cuss again cause the steel warped, throw away the part and repeat the process. Story of my life lol

This happens to me about 10 times a day Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 26th 2022, 2:27 pm

Got sidetracked today a little bit.  Got the tractor hanging up in the air so I can twirl it around to check some stuff.

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The eyebolt was just the ticket.  Those pull pins will be replaced with cotter pins in the final product.  Using them so I don't kill dozens of cotter pins.

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Since it is part of the same system, I replaced the 2 small springs that attach to the dash with a larger stronger clutch spring from a Murray Widebody attached to the side panel.  It's Li'l Red's original.  I found it after I got a new one last year when I refreshed Red.

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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 26th 2022, 9:57 pm

Started patching up the next open spot in the frame and didn't realize I ran out of welding electrodes.

Well, it's tacked in at least.

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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 27th 2022, 12:19 am

Well, I found some smaller rods for my welder.  Some that I used with my old 110 welder.  I had a bit of a learning curve and took a lot for them to penetrate.  Still need some touch up tacks to plug a couple divots.  

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Found my panel that covered the one opening on the left.  I'll leave that.

Not much, but we did get a little more than a dusting of snow tonight.  I figure it will be gone by morning.

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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 27th 2022, 6:50 pm

So, I am at a point of modification.  I was originally going to stretch the front a few inches, but in the process of installing the 2300, I ended up pushing the back out about 3 inches...  I have the wheelbase I was somewhat looking for.  I'm at full pause on the front while I think about this.  I don't think it would be that difficult to extend, it's a matter of "Do I need to?"

Food for thought.  

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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 27th 2022, 7:17 pm

I'm liking the way it looks right now.  Probably don't needa stretch in the front.

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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 27th 2022, 8:26 pm

I dunno.. I went ahead and popped off the front axle and using some boards extended it 4 inches. Will throw the axle out in front of the grill for that rat look I think.  I should grab the hood and grill to see.

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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 27th 2022, 9:11 pm

hmm... the extension would lower the front an inch more than the boards.

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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 27th 2022, 10:11 pm

Do it!
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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 27th 2022, 10:14 pm

Starting to look like a real tractor. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 27th 2022, 11:01 pm

That looks BAD A$$!!


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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 28th 2022, 4:18 pm

Here’s my insane opinion. I’d replace the J spindles with C spindles to emphasize the hot rod look. It’d be a lot of work, but you’d have something more stable. Also, maybe the rack from Sasquatch could find its way into here and you could really get some speed capability Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 28th 2022, 5:43 pm

Yeah, that would be some work.  It would lower the front more too.  Not sure I would like to do that.  I am pretty happy with the bell crank on these old sears.  Tey are pretty solid.  I am replacing the ball joints with heim.  I already have them on the way.  I was able to get some 1/2-20 ones so I can use the existing half inch tie rods.

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I should have the steering pretty tight when I am done.


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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 28th 2022, 5:53 pm

Next question, I have some 1/4-inch 3x2 angle iron.  I think that is overkill in the extension especially since I am only looking at an additional 12 inches off the front.  I think a 1/8-inch would be plenty and more manageable.


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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 28th 2022, 10:23 pm

IMO, the 1/8” should be OK, but I would fabricate a C-channel out of it like the original frame rails. Stronger and I think it would look better.
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YES, a downward facing C type channel is what I am planning.  Just like the mule tunnel.  

Just a point of reference on this thing.  Not sure if you realize how low it is right now.

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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 28th 2022, 11:31 pm

COOL tractor.
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I'm liking the look of it @MightyRaze, kicking that front axle out makes it !
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PostSubject: Re: Dirty Rat - Sears   Dirty Rat - Sears - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJanuary 30th 2022, 8:26 pm

Mean looking machine! Smile
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Got to get the generator prepped for this week, so I'll have a pause for a bit on the build  We are expecting an ice storm tues night into Thursday switching to snow.  No know accumulation yet.  Then again, it may do nothing but get super cold.  Looks to bottom out around 5 Thursday evening into Friday.


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That thing looks sweet, like a drag machine.


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Thanks @Doug.  I sat out and looked at it for a while.  Thinking where I may want to go with this build.  I decided to see what this looked like with the axle at 6" beyond the frame and was like.  "Yeah.  That's perfect!"   I liked the 4 inch mark.  But the 6" is just right!  At 4 inches I would have thought 1/8th would have been thick enough for the angle.  At 6" 3/16th is definitely the minimum for this thing now.  Tractor is just too heavy for the 1/8th.  If you look at Li'l Red, the front bumper got bent up with the 1/8th thick angle.

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IMO, the 1/8” should be OK, but I would fabricate a C-channel out of it like the original frame rails. Stronger and I think it would look better.

I was wrong.  If I was to extend out much further, I would need bigger.  I'm only going out about 9" so 1/8" is good enough!  Thanks  @Nevadablue.


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