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PostSubject: Re: Talk About Anything Thread V1   Talk About Anything Thread V1 - Page 19 Icon_minitimeDecember 10th 2017, 1:42 pm

Oh, thats too bad. Cool trans, wonder what it looks like on the inside. Weird how it has a bunch of bolts on the underside like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Talk About Anything Thread V1   Talk About Anything Thread V1 - Page 19 Icon_minitimeDecember 10th 2017, 1:57 pm

Looks like a Foote version of an 801 or 820?
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PostSubject: Re: Talk About Anything Thread V1   Talk About Anything Thread V1 - Page 19 Icon_minitimeDecember 10th 2017, 1:59 pm

That trans looks just like one we swapped into Carter's Jake except that one doesnt have the hi/lo range. It has the shift collar system kinda like an FNR so no shift keys. Also like Rich said all the bolts are on the bottom, which is kind of a pain hahaha.


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PostSubject: Re: Talk About Anything Thread V1   Talk About Anything Thread V1 - Page 19 Icon_minitimeDecember 10th 2017, 2:19 pm

Looks interesting to at the least. never had a foote before some how
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PostSubject: Re: Talk About Anything Thread V1   Talk About Anything Thread V1 - Page 19 Icon_minitimeDecember 11th 2017, 12:44 pm

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Oh, thats too bad. Cool trans, wonder what it looks like on the inside. Weird how it has a bunch of bolts on the underside like that.

We will find out. I'll bust into it in a couple months. The serial # badge is missing from the tractor so I don't know exactly which year yet. I have done 0 investigating at this point. LOL

It sure is a bit smaller than I thought. About a foot shorter frame than the Murray GT for next year.
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Frame has a bend in the back, but it should be super easy to straighten out and I can easilly brace it. As well as the front grill.




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PostSubject: Re: Talk About Anything Thread V1   Talk About Anything Thread V1 - Page 19 Icon_minitimeDecember 11th 2017, 1:49 pm

Assuming the engine is factory, should be pretty easy. I assume its a briggs. Pretty sure you know how to read those, but to everyone that doesn't, the year is the last two digits in the "Code" set of numbers.

This applies to all briggs engines that I know of. Don't know about kohler, Tecumseh, or Kawasaki.

EDIT: on second thought, that is a Tecumseh. The intake is on the bottom and exhaust on top, Briggs are opposite of that. Anyone know how to read Tecumseh tags? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Talk About Anything Thread V1   Talk About Anything Thread V1 - Page 19 Icon_minitimeDecember 11th 2017, 3:03 pm

i had a Tecumseh engine just like that, had a aluminium strip on one of the crankcase bolts that had the numbers on it. it was just kinda sticking outand got broken off
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PostSubject: Re: Talk About Anything Thread V1   Talk About Anything Thread V1 - Page 19 Icon_minitimeDecember 11th 2017, 7:11 pm

Just out of curiosity anyone here ever done rallying or built a rally car?
kinda looks fun and dangerous to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Talk About Anything Thread V1   Talk About Anything Thread V1 - Page 19 Icon_minitimeDecember 11th 2017, 10:09 pm

The shroud has the #s on it.  I got it pulled off tonight.  Looking into the #'s   I think it is Tecumseh.  There was crud between the starter and flywheel causing the grind.  Not filled with water as I thought, I think it is Gas coming out.  That is fixable.  Also, this old engine appears to have really good compression.  Pretty hard to one hand it.  I may try to fix this engine?  See how it goes.


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PostSubject: Re: Talk About Anything Thread V1   Talk About Anything Thread V1 - Page 19 Icon_minitimeDecember 11th 2017, 11:23 pm

I actually watched like 10 Group B rally vids earlier lol. Makes me think about doing a rally themed tractor...


You can read the Tecumseh codes, I don't remember how though.
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PostSubject: Re: Talk About Anything Thread V1   Talk About Anything Thread V1 - Page 19 Icon_minitimeDecember 11th 2017, 11:26 pm

Just visually, this thing looks to be a 917.255274, (1979-81?) but that model is suppose to have a BRIGGS in it not a Tecumseh?  This has a Tecumseh, 143336022 SER 3165D.  That would be a June 14, 1983 Engine.  SER "3" year ending number  165=day of year, to my knowledge.

Issue, the newer ones have sloped fenders, this one has flat fenders.  All the flat fenders I have seen with tecumseh do not have the transaxle I have, but a transmission with chain.


EDIT: I am thinking engine swap somewhere down the line. GRR...
Model plate is missing from the tractor.


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PostSubject: Re: Talk About Anything Thread V1   Talk About Anything Thread V1 - Page 19 Icon_minitimeDecember 11th 2017, 11:39 pm

RichieRichOverdrive wrote:
I actually watched like 10 Group B rally vids earlier lol. Makes me think about doing a rally themed tractor...


You can read the Tecumseh codes, I don't remember how though.
me too man maybee thats what i will do with my new craftsman lt4000.
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Sorry Allis, I think I have decided to do a solid axle on the little craftsman on the right. Widen it a bit. Maybe go with a speed type build.

On the left I am still torn on the front suspension. Neither will have rear suspension.


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PostSubject: Re: Talk About Anything Thread V1   Talk About Anything Thread V1 - Page 19 Icon_minitimeDecember 13th 2017, 4:27 pm

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Sorry Allis, I think I have decided to do a solid axle on the little craftsman on the right.  Widen it a bit. Maybe go with a speed type build.

On the left I am still torn on the front suspension.  Neither will have rear suspension.  
why do you guys do solid axles on speed builds? ist that super sketchy when turning corners? my mud mower skreetches when is turns corners and it isnt even pulley swapped.
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PostSubject: Re: Talk About Anything Thread V1   Talk About Anything Thread V1 - Page 19 Icon_minitimeDecember 13th 2017, 4:36 pm

Because the axles are 1 inch verses 3/4 inch and are wider, also the gearboxes have no differential to break and you can play with the sprocket sizes to give more torque or speed for different driving conditions. Its just more durable than having a differential and lets the axle be higher up in the frame for more stability
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PostSubject: Re: Talk About Anything Thread V1   Talk About Anything Thread V1 - Page 19 Icon_minitimeDecember 13th 2017, 4:40 pm

But i personally like tranaxles for mudding because you can put more torque on the input shaft and case than a gearbox, . i have blown two gearboxes because of having too aggressive tread and to much hp with very little belt slippage , so they do have limitations but for racing i consider them a better solution
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Because the axles are 1 inch verses 3/4 inch and are wider, also the gearboxes have no differential to break and you can play with the sprocket sizes to give more torque or speed for different driving conditions. Its just more durable than having a differential and lets the axle be higher up in the frame for more stability

I thought you meant that you guys were solid axle swapping transaxles. I see what you mean by more options as far as speed and good brakes go. I got a kinda neat setup in my sears 88 series that im taking apart where there is a 4 speed foote transmission that is chain driven to a rear axle that has a small little diff in the middle of it. im planning on using it when i make my speed/rat rod build.
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I am still planning.  Biggest issue I have for next year is budget, since I am planning 2 builds.  I think I will keep it unlocked for now.  I will bust into that trans.  I do know I am thinking fixed front axle, wider.  I would like to figure out how to widen the back just a bit as well without compromising the transaxle.


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They use solid axles to keep traction, the steering is usually solved with the front axle angles.


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If you lean just right you can lift a rear tire off the ground letting you steer easier. lol!
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Ah, I think I figured out the hardest part of next year's build-off entries. Names! I have them stored away so I do not forget them. I have toyed with some other names, but I think I have that nailed now. I'll give those names out when I enter the build-off!

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I'll give a little suspense!

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Doug wrote:
They use solid axles to keep traction, the steering is usually solved with the front axle angles.
I read that the ideal angle is 10 degrees.
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Yeah. Theres a lot of technical stuff when it comes to steering
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My 700 for next year's buildoff is here! Gotta wait til Christmas to open the box though, lol. Probably best that way, dont need to distract myself any more than usual, or get too much of a start on the build.
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i could use a 700,,,,
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