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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 12th 2017, 10:04 pm

Thanks, I think it looks nice too. In the garage it's pretty loud but not much more than the stack was. Sounds real nice at low idle
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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 12th 2017, 10:28 pm

I bet it has a nice pop to it.

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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 13th 2017, 6:04 pm

Yeah it does. The more I look at it the more I like it. It looks pretty good just stick out of the hood

I don't know how many people remember but I was in the middle of moving the clutch pedal over to the left side. I had a look at it today and decided it would be better to put the clutch in the middle or towards the back rather than right up at the engine pulley. So I have to redesign the pedal and fab a linkage for the clutch. Also tomorrow I'm gonna have a hunt for pulleys because I'd like to go a bit faster than 6:6which is what I had planned. I'll keep the 6 in front but go slightly smaller in the rear. Stay tuned!!
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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 14th 2017, 8:39 pm

Some progress made today.

Took apart the 'old' clutch setup, to make way for the new.

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But I thought I'd rather get the pulleys sorted before I started on the new clutch.

Here's most of my pulleys. I have more but they're not suitable for this purpose.

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The black one with the deep groove is going to be my engine pulley. I prefer pulleys with deep grooves because it helps keep the belt on. Only problem with this pulley is how to bolt it into the shaft?

Further rumaging in my scrap boxes produces this. A hub with a 25mm bore a three bolt holes.

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Miraculously, 2 of the holes line straight up with the ones on the pulkey, and with a little re drilling of a no. 3 hole the hub is bolted to the pulley. I am going to get my uncle to bore it out to 1" tomorrow so it fits on the crankshaft.

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I think this pulley is the best choice for a trans pulley.

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The only thing that concerns me is the groove is not very wide or deep.

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This could result in the belt falling off the trans pulley which is a problem that has played this project from the outset.

I hope to get the clutch near enough finished by tomorrow. Can't wait to drive her again!
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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 14th 2017, 10:26 pm

Nice luck on finding that pulley hub haha. You could always make some good belt retainers for the trans pulley to keep the belt on.

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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 14th 2017, 10:30 pm

Yeah I think that's what I'll do. I forgot to mention the sizes of the pulleys. The front is 6" and the rear is 4".
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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 14th 2017, 10:49 pm

That seems to be the norm these days. Should get some nice speed!

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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 15th 2017, 6:01 am

Previously I had a 5 1/2 front and a 4" on the rear. Got 21 mph out of that setup.
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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 17th 2017, 7:41 pm

Got a wee bit of work done. Not as much as I would have liked though.

Put this front pulley on instead. It's still 6 inch but has a smaller grove which should help with speed.

I have the clutch almost finished. Just have to add an idler pulley and hook up a linkage. Made anew double pulley clutch to replace the old one. I also fitted a clutch pedal but I didn't get a foto of it.

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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 17th 2017, 10:37 pm

Nice double pulley there.

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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 21st 2017, 8:32 pm

Thanks! I hope it works well. I've been pretty busy these last few days, was away Thursday, busy Friday,away on Saturday, and away today as well. I only managed to get a bit of the clutch linkage done.

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I think the welder may be out of order as well because the electrode head (I think that's wut it's called) isn't holder the electrode in.
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Is it a clamp style gun or one that you have to tighten and loosen?

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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 21st 2017, 9:56 pm

The weld looks good from my screen. Arc i take it.

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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 22nd 2017, 6:30 am

nice work, right at the point I am at with my build tomorrow, the clutch, cheers for the ideas, just a quick question from a newbie, when measuring the pulleys are you guys measuring from outside edge or from the bottom of the groove where the belt runs?
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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 22nd 2017, 8:13 pm

AllisKidD21 wrote:
Is it a clamp style gun or one that you have to tighten and loosen?
One that tightens and loosens by screwing it;

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The weld looks good from my screen.  Arc i take it.
Thanks, yes it's an arc welder. Got it for free years ago and still going strong. With the right rods (electrodes) you can do anything with it.

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nice work, right at the point I am at with my build tomorrow, the clutch, cheers for the ideas, just a quick question from a newbie, when measuring the pulleys are you guys measuring from outside edge or from the bottom of the groove where the belt runs?
Thanks man! Personally I always measure the outside diameter because it's easier to do with a tape or ruler.

I stripped the welding head apart today and got it working again. I also had hardly any time to work on the Westwood. I did get an adjustable end made up while testing the welder.

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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 24th 2017, 8:51 pm

Just a small update to keep things moving.

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The linkage that you see there now had to be remade because the belt was rubbing on it. I also added in an idler pulley to keep the belt away from the shifter. A test drive is actually pretty close, all I have to do is make some belt guides and a clutch linkage. How hard can that be?! Haha.
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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 24th 2017, 9:10 pm

"How hard can that be?" Ha, I think we've all said that one a few too many times hahaha. Looking good Matt!

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Yeah, I might get it driving on Saturday, if that saying agrees haha!
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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 24th 2017, 11:03 pm

Video when you do?

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I don't have any way to upload it, yet. Should get a YouTube channel.
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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 25th 2017, 9:21 pm

So, no progress today unfortunately. I did however get the workshop a little more organized so should be easier to work on the old Westwood.
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Gotta have room to lay down a strip of rubber in the shop once she's driving eh? Hahaha.

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PostSubject: Re: '86 Westwood T1200   '86 Westwood T1200 - Page 8 Icon_minitimeAugust 27th 2017, 7:45 pm

Haha, only the necessities in my shop.

Anyway, the Saturday deadline came and went. Mostly because I underestimated how difficult it would be to get the clutch linkage to clear the belt. Stopped working on the linkage for a while and added the idler pulley and clutch spring. Although it will need moved because it runs on clutch pulley when clutch is disengaged.

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I also started making a belt retainer for the front. I'll do one for the other side as well.

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My to-do list to get it driving is.;

Front and rear belt retainers.
Drill another hole for steering linkage so it clears the clutch pedal.
Fab up clutch linkage.
Tighten up various nuts and bolts.

I'd love to get it all done by tomorrow but I'm away for 11am to 7pm. I'll hopefully get it done before I go back to school on Friday.
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Clutch looks pretty good. Hopefully you'll get the ol' girl driving again in the next couple of days.

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Thanks Allis! Yeah, I hope so too!
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Some more progress!!

Finished front belt retainers. Hopefully these will work quite good.

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Swapped the rear pulley for this one. It has a deeper groove than the other one. This pulley had cuts in the surface but I've welded them up and ground them down again.

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Rear belt retainer. Hopefully I only need one. I can add more if I need too.

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New clutch linkage.

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This is the clutch linkage installed. Its fully adjustable except for the pedal end although I might make it adjustable too. It does need some more adjusting but we're quite close to having a test run. Just a few finishing touches needed.

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