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RichieRichOverdrive Veteran Member

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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:45 am | |
| 3/8" would probably do, but I would go up to 1/2" just for comfort. I'd wanna know for damn sure I'm not gonna break the thing. | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:23 am | |
| Yeah , the cost is the issue on those things tho | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:52 pm | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:18 pm | |
| Hey that track rod setup looks pretty good! Should work fine. Decided on a link setup plan yet?  "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss *I have 21 tractors and over 40 chainsaws, I need help* | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:26 pm | |
| I will go with a three link because i have three more atv tie rods with that style of ball joint ( Chinese quad parts lol) its pretty solid with the track rod on it | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:39 pm | |
| Ah, nice! As long as you orient the joints the proper way on the axle it should work great. Make sure the 3-link bars aren't at a super steep angle either.  "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss *I have 21 tractors and over 40 chainsaws, I need help* | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:44 pm | |
| They will be almost level with the frame when I'm done with them so they should have good movement | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:46 pm | |
| Yeah that would be best, mine aren't quite that level but they are at a nice enough angle to work good. Can't wait to see some pictures! Haha.  "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss *I have 21 tractors and over 40 chainsaws, I need help* | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:49 pm | |
| Why ? its not like suspension is your favorite topic or anything ak , LOL yeah when i get more done i will post some glamour shots | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:51 pm | |
| Hahaha, sounds good.  "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss *I have 21 tractors and over 40 chainsaws, I need help* | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:55 pm | |
| here yea go ak , some pics of my evenings work . Its starting to look like something i will be proud to drive .  theres the other side in.  front view of linkages  some more pics of the design  looking big and black again !  Needs some severe hood modification to make the hood fit again .  Heres the reason there isnt a third link on the top of the setup.  | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:06 pm | |
| Looks super cool, must be smooth to ride! | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:10 pm | |
| Thanks , I dot know yet sadly , still need a link on top and a drag link for steering which will be very interesting to make because of my bottom linkages | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:08 am | |
| looks good, just brace up your frame side mounts before you ride it much, they look like they would bend with a good hit. I love seeing all these front suspension builds. Makes me want to build one | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:20 am | |
| Looks good biggas! Only thing I would do is turn the lower joints 90* so once all the links are done and bolted up the axle doesn't want to tilt back and forth. It looks good though, very clean looking!  "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss *I have 21 tractors and over 40 chainsaws, I need help* | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:24 pm | |
| - Creepycrawler wrote:
- looks good, just brace up your frame side mounts before you ride it much, they look like they would bend with a good hit. I love seeing all these front suspension builds. Makes me want to build one
Yeah i will be putting in bottom braces on the frame for those , and they are just tacked in place cause i ran out of wire | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:26 pm | |
| - AllisKidD21 wrote:
- Looks good biggas! Only thing I would do is turn the lower joints 90* so once all the links are done and bolted up the axle doesn't want to tilt back and forth. It looks good though, very clean looking!
i might do that if its too much rocking . not sure how it would help much by rotating them because of the joint style | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:27 am | |
| Bit of a unique 3 link setup. I see with the new pix what Allis was saying, but I think I see where you are going with it too. Only thing I can possibly see is like allis said is the tilting. Not so much due to the link angles, I think your shocks will handle that. I think because your panhard is on the back, your center link is low giving less top side support. Just some food for thought. Looking good, and then again this is a Lawn tractor not Bigfoot! | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:18 pm | |
| When i put the track bar on i was planning on doing one on the front too for but i ran out of atv linkages and had too lose the front track bar and went to a three link instead of four . | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:27 pm | |
| All its missing is a drag link , i also found some softer coil overs to give it more absorbtion but havent picked them up yet,  This is my solution to putting in a single drag link while still using the murray steering system .  | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:31 pm | |
| Looking really clean biggas! I wouldn't rely on the coilovers to hold the axle from tilting though, they're not meant for that and that's how they get snapped off. Gonna be a test drive video once she's sll done?  "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss *I have 21 tractors and over 40 chainsaws, I need help* | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:35 pm | |
| Would you look over it really closely and see what the weak points might be so i can look out for issues and fix them ? How would i twist the coil overs? i moved the bottom links down on the axle and the top one coulb be higher if i moved my track bar to the front | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:21 pm | |
| Well it looks good but I drew a couple things out to show you. Basically just refering to the joints being vertical on your axle. When I mounted my center link that way it wouldn't lock the axle solid and it would try and tilt back and forth. I just welded the joint solid and it fixed it.   Also maybe add a couple of gussets to the mounts just so they dont try and bend.  Other than that it seems okay!  "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss *I have 21 tractors and over 40 chainsaws, I need help* | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:32 pm | |
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 | Subject: Re: 2003 heavily modified Murray Off-road tractor Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:22 pm | |
| No problemo! Heim joints would work great, then you could do U-brackets like this:  Nice job on getting 'er driving too! Hows she ride? And the flex?  "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss *I have 21 tractors and over 40 chainsaws, I need help* | |
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