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AllisKidD21 Moderator

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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 20th 2018, 11:28 am | |
| Nice! The new stance looks meaner for sure. | |
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RichieRichOverdrive Moderator


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 20th 2018, 3:04 pm | |
| I guess no welding today, looks like it's gonna rain. Can't pull her in the shop because of the stupid truck in there. | |
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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 20th 2018, 8:21 pm | |
| Well as soon as I said that it brightened right up lol. Most important part of welding cracks, you drill a hole at the end. Welded it and grinded it but forgot to get a pic.   Not a good example of my welding  Now for some front axle strengthening  Turned out ok, not done yet though.  | |
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AllisKidD21 Moderator


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 20th 2018, 8:58 pm | |
| Yep, always a good idea to drill the ends of a crack before welding it, that way it doesn't just keep going. Haha. Looks good! Gonna do the steel on the bottom of the axle too or no?  "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss *I have 21 tractors and over 40 chainsaws, I need help* | |
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RichieRichOverdrive Moderator


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 20th 2018, 9:40 pm | |
| If nothing else, I'll weld up the seam on the bottom better. Working at bracing the ends  | |
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Crazy_Carl Core Member


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 20th 2018, 9:50 pm | |
| You see a lot of people splitting the ends of the these stamped steel axles open. This bracing should help a lot. | |
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muckmudd Established Member


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 20th 2018, 10:15 pm | |
| Big wheels, I would definitely keep reinforcing the frame. | |
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RichieRichOverdrive Moderator


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 20th 2018, 10:57 pm | |
| Not sure what I'm doing with the frame yet. Ugh, these axle ends are gonna be ugly as all hell. I should have known better than to weld tubing with stick  | |
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muckmudd Established Member


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 20th 2018, 11:10 pm | |
| I would just add some tube on the inside | |
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RichieRichOverdrive Moderator


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 20th 2018, 11:58 pm | |
| I guess this is it. Ends are ugly but oh well. Welded up the seam on the bottom a bit better, and added a better center pivot by drilling out the hole and welding in 1/2" pipe and drilling it out to 5/8".  | |
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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 21st 2018, 2:15 am | |
| Threw some paint on the axle, kinda heavily to cover my trashy welds lol. Debating on using Mutt's old spindles on this, the steering arms on the mtd spindles are kinda thin for steering arm material. I'll see how those spindles fit and if they do I might use em. If it's not raining tomorrow I'll try and get the axle pivot welded in. Started tonight and i threw a tarp over her. Oh, and found something to use for an engine mount plate. Hitch plate from the murray gt i stole the 820 and all the other stuff from. 3/16" or 1/4" plate, plenty heavy for what I'm doing.  | |
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Crazy_Carl Core Member


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 21st 2018, 5:10 pm | |
| Yeah welds aren't the greatest but it looks strong. That looks like some great scrap material to make a motor mount out of. | |
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RichieRichOverdrive Moderator


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 21st 2018, 8:03 pm | |
| Cut the plate down to fit. The sides just happened to come down as far as the frame, which is cool. Perfectly cut a 13/16" strip out of the middle, honestly I'm proud of myself lol.  Welded and painted. Would have kept going with the axle pivot but the sky turned kinda dark and i didnt wanna get rained on.  | |
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muckmudd Established Member


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 21st 2018, 11:35 pm | |
| It should be a lot stronger too. | |
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RichieRichOverdrive Moderator


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 21st 2018, 11:46 pm | |
| Yep, definitely is. Not sure if I'll be doing any more frame reinforcement yet, we'll see I guess. I got some really thick channel steel that would be nice for this. and would really stiffen her up. I feel like I'm making a wheel horse out of this thing lol. | |
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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 22nd 2018, 11:49 pm | |
| Welded on the new pivot point  I like it a lot better now, she's a lot better off for articulation  Next i think I'll do steering stops and other steering stuff. | |
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RichieRichOverdrive Moderator


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 23rd 2018, 8:59 pm | |
| Got one steering stop welded on.  | |
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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 23rd 2018, 9:54 pm | |
| Are those 5/8" or 3/4" axles? | |
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RichieRichOverdrive Moderator


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 24th 2018, 5:22 am | |
| 3/4". I'm not dumb enough to use 5/8" lol Got the other steering stop on so i decided to work on the engine. Decided on using this big beautiful 60s 6hp Briggs Took a bit to get this pulley off. I wish it wouldn't have broke.  Looks good on there. Under the hood should be pretty roomy.  The original throttle arm was broken off, I put this thing on but i dont know how it will fare. We'll see i guess. Running it ungoverned.  Oh, and i made a pulley for her out of the Murray GT deck pulley. Pretty much the same as the one on Mutt.  So next I suppose I'll get the engine mounted (and running at least, it's sat a few months since it last ran) | |
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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 24th 2018, 11:17 am | |
| Good old updraft carb, haha. Looks pretty good in the frame there Rich, should work out well.  "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss *I have 21 tractors and over 40 chainsaws, I need help* | |
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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 24th 2018, 11:47 am | |
| The engine suits the frame quite well. That Briggs will outlast a Honda clone by far. Btw, what happened to the clone engine? | |
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RichieRichOverdrive Moderator


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 24th 2018, 12:16 pm | |
| Nothing. I just like the Briggs better | |
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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 24th 2018, 8:43 pm | |
| Definitely go with an old briggs that doesn't owe you anyhing since this is a budget build. Any more ideas on belt routing now that you have the engine mocked up? | |
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RichieRichOverdrive Moderator


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 24th 2018, 11:21 pm | |
| A few idler pulleys to keep the belt off the frame. As for the clutch? I might be able to reuse the original jackshaft/clutch setup.
Ordered two outer axle bearings, a throttle clevis thing(sounds dumb but it saves a lot of pain with cables), and a case gasket. Gonna pull this trans apart and lock it and put some seals(and sealed bearings) in it so it doesnt leak like a stuck pig anymore. | |
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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 24th 2018, 11:27 pm | |
| You spent $$$$ on parts  | |
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RichieRichOverdrive Moderator


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 | Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 24th 2018, 11:30 pm | |
| Yeah, cuz i actually kinda have some money now lol. | |
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