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 1969 Wheel Horse 700 WORKHORSE

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Crazy_Carl
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PostSubject: Re: 1969 Wheel Horse 700 WORKHORSE   1969 Wheel Horse 700 WORKHORSE - Page 5 Icon_minitimeFri Mar 27, 2020 5:18 pm

I really like that engine mounting plate with the fuel pump to a remote tank. Yeah wheel horses are geared so low and slow but make great crawlers.
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Thanks Carl! Yeah I dont really do any fast riding anyways, I like to just sit back relax and crawl along.

Ended up doing some yard work today hauled a bunch of busted up concrete. Idk how much it weighed but I piled it up till the tires went flat on the trailer and it had some "mad camber bra!" going on.
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So I thought I'd show what it takes to turn a generator engine into a usable engine for really anything but in my case my wheel horse. So basically your gonna have to figure out a shaft because the output shaft on generators are tapered so my dad came up with the idea of machining a sleeve to fit over the taper on the crank which would turn it straight. This was pretty tedious but the second go around was a dead nuts fit. You can also use the taper peice that goes into the generator part but in this case it couldn't be turned down to a standard size. The size we thought would work best was 1 and 3/8s. So that's what my dad did and my dad talked me into using one of those split tapered pulleys so that's what I went with. Oh and of course your gonna have to cut the appropriate key way for the shaft size you choose. You can also take the crankshaft out and turn it down to a usable size but this shaft on the honda was too short for that.

Here's a picture of the original taper peice thingy that went on the shaft.
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Here's a picture of the first shaft my dad made but the taper was off a bit so it didnt work.
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Here it is on the tractor right now.
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Oh and I was too lazy and cheap to go buy the proper bolt to fit the shaft cause I have no idea what size or thread it is cause its metric so I just cut the long a$$ one off that came with it, shortened it, then welded a 3/8s grade 8 nut on the end of it. So I guess it's a bisexual bolt (3/8s head and metric threads)  lol! but it hasn't flew off and killed me yet so I guess I did good. Lol!
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Would you please explain your belt guides on the engine. I have a bolt kinda guide in the same place where you have your top one. I'm currently thinking about putting one roughly where your bottom one is to help my clutch not releasing problem.
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Another thing you're gonna have to do is figure out the govenor because generators are normally set to run at 3000 to 3600 rpms so what I did was a re-adjusted the governor to where it would idle down then I ended up welding the arm straight because for some reason this honda uses a different govenor arm that has a pivot in the middle.

This is where I welded....kinda hard to see so I drew a circle around what I'm talking about.
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You're also going to have to get a throttle plate because there is no where to hook a throttle to so I got one off Amazon for 20 bucks but it also came with brand new springs. It didnt come with a cable clamp so I made one out a 1/4 in bolt with a hole in it and a nut. Works good!
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I also had to figure out a choke because there is no place hook a choke cable to. This generator had an auto choke but it also had a choke lock out for cold starts so I ended up making a little bracket for a spring to go on then I ended up doing some finagling it to make it work. I really dont know what I did but it works. 1969 Wheel Horse 700 WORKHORSE - Page 5 2731072446 looks pretty slick too just pokes alittle out of the hood so you can pull it.
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No choke
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@Crazy_Carl wrote:
Would you please explain your belt guides on the engine.  I have a bolt kinda guide in the same place where you have your top one.  I'm currently thinking about putting one roughly where your bottom one is to help my clutch not releasing problem.
I had the exact same issues your having. What I did is have someone push in the clutch while the engine idles or lock the clutch in then used two screw drivers and just sat there and pulled up and pushed down on the belt fairly close to the engine pulley till the belt stoped (gotta be careful doing this) but your looking for the belt to grab the screw drive just enough to allow the belt to disengage around the front side of the engine pulley. It's hard to explain but once you get it in the correct spot you just make a bracket that is in the exact spot your scew driver was and then your going to have to fine tune there location and how far they are away from the belt. I will note I have an extra tensioner and my belt guard is homemade to fit my engine so I'm not sure how yours works being a latter model tractor but you have the nice clutch that pinches the belt unlike mine. Hope this makes at least some sense lol but if you have anymore questions just ask away!
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Makes total sense to me. Does your tractor shift really well on the go after doing that?
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Oh yeah I can up shift pretty well while moving just as long as I let off the gas before grabbing a gear.

This is what the 60s models have on the belt guard to stop the belt (I believe wheel horse called it a "belt pucker") but my pulley was too small to use a tang like this one but you might be able to with yours and it looks alot cleaner in my opinion. I'm sure your 702 has one like this.
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That's a good idea for placing belt stops. I've always just placed them where convenient. Budgie has always been good about shifting from gear to gear, but going to a gear from neutral is a bit iffy if you dont wait.
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It probably helps that I beveled the edges of the gears in the transmission when I had it apart. I only did it because they were ground down alot and had sharp and rough looking edges. All I did was file them smooth and slightly rounded the edges over since they were chewed up.
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