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PostSubject: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeFebruary 12th 2020, 6:31 pm

Again, my father-in-law asked if I would like his 9N tractor.  I told him I was interested.  He's wanting to get it out of the yard.  He has 2 Kubota's and the 9N is just sitting and rotting.  He says it ran, and drove it where it is parked today.  I have every other Friday off.  He would like for me to come over and help him get it out and started again.  He'll bring it over to the house.

A few pix of it.  By what I figure, it is a 1940 Ford 9N with a newer 8N engine.  Once running, it will need some freshening up.

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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeFebruary 13th 2020, 8:39 am

cool old machine, like how it has the toolbox.... I love my old IH, we have allot of property but I still dont use it too much because of the size of it & how much of a pain it is to maneuver around... Those machines are not worth a whole heck of allot to sell so you might as well fix it up, put some paint on it & do something with it...
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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeFebruary 13th 2020, 10:39 am

I don't know if I have long term use of it, but if it works well, I do have some immediate need for it.  I need to work the back yard a bit better for drainage.  Beyond that, I have access to a tiller and maybe do that garden I keep thinking about.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Sears Suburbans, but there is only so much I can do with a tractor their size, when one of these could do it much faster.  Twisted Evil 

Future thoughts...

Restore it, take it back to original colors. (Battleship Grey)

Resto-mod it, It already has the wrong engine, 12v upgrade and what appears wrong colors. (Probably go this route and paint it to be my own)


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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeFebruary 14th 2020, 7:43 pm

Free is a good deal. There's always been a Ford Jubilee in my family(with a backhoe grafted onto the back, but that's irrelevant). She's always ran great, even after not having a air filter for 40+ years. 6v battery always gave trouble though. I'm sure that 8n will run nice when you get it running.
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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 1st 2020, 10:21 pm

Haven't worked on getting it running yet, but it is now at my place!

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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 9th 2020, 2:44 am

I bet if you get some implements that 3pt will come in handy.
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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 9th 2020, 9:29 am

RichieRichOverdrive wrote:
I bet if you get some implements that 3pt will come in handy.

I have access to a box blade, tiller, brush hog, that I know of. First thing later this year is get it running. The engine appears to be free.


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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 12th 2020, 6:29 pm

So does that one have the ohv engine or flathead? I'm not sure what one is which. My grandfather has a golden jubilee 1952? 53? His has been sitting outside for most of the time he has had it. I think he bought it in the 70's. His has the sherman hoe and front loader also, with some heavy use before he got it. The arms and supports for the loader has been broken and welded a few times. Usually starts and runs pretty good though. Not the most powerful machine compared with todays stuff but gets the job done.
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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 12th 2020, 6:39 pm

They’re great little tractors for bush hogging, box blade, rototiller, pto spreader, sprayers, and a small disk. I’ve spent a fair amount of time around a jubilee putting in food plots for deer hunting. They’re perfect for that
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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 12th 2020, 7:14 pm

@mr.modified it's a Flathead. 4cyl 23hp I think.


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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 12th 2020, 7:21 pm

mr.modified wrote:
So does that one have the ohv engine or flathead? I'm not sure what one is which. My grandfather has a golden jubilee 1952? 53? His has been sitting outside for most of the time he has had it. I think he bought it in the 70's. His has the sherman hoe and front loader also, with some heavy use before he got it. The arms and supports for the loader has been broken and welded a few times. Usually starts and runs pretty good though. Not the most powerful machine compared with todays stuff but gets the job done.

Dad's Jubilee is OHV. I'm not sure the 9Ns were. And yeah, not all that powerful, but reliable as can be.
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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 12th 2020, 7:49 pm

Yeah this 9n has an 8n engine. May try to get it going in the next month.


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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 13th 2020, 2:24 pm

Here ya go... she's a flatty.

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You can see where the 8n (RED) was mated to the 9n rear (GREY).

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First thing this old girl needs a good scrubbing.  Then it needs the shift selector installed in the trans.  From there, I'll give her the flame juice and fire it up.


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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 13th 2020, 7:44 pm

My grandfather's has the exhaust manifold rusted off for quite awhile. Like someone said, the old 6v system cranks kinda slow. But it gets her going.
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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 13th 2020, 10:02 pm

Cool old motor, love me a flattie, LOL. At work, we had a fork lift with a 4 cylinder flattie in it. Those motors have awesome low end torque and can idle reliably at like 300 rpm.
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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 14th 2020, 2:28 pm

Mighty, if you need to, you can jump it direct to the starter with a 12v battery. Just remember, positive ground.

The cast exhaust manifold on dads has had tons of patches, somehow it's still holding together. I don't think they're all that uncommon or hard to replace though, being right on the side of the engine.
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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 14th 2020, 7:48 pm

Positive ground... good to know. 

All cleaned up, now to perform a couple fixes then see if it will start.

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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 14th 2020, 8:01 pm

Ah, it's really not that bad on the outside now that it's cleaned up. I like that "Ford" logo. LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 14th 2020, 8:10 pm

Hmm, is there any chance the ol' girl has been converted to 12v? Just wondering because of the alternator on it.

Looks like she cleaned up nice.


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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 14th 2020, 8:14 pm

RichieRichOverdrive wrote:
Mighty, if you need to, you can jump it direct to the starter with a 12v battery. Just remember, positive ground.

The cast exhaust manifold on dads has had tons of patches, somehow it's still holding together. I don't think they're all that uncommon or hard to replace though, being right on the side of the engine.

It's been converted to 12V.  I've read the ground changes to positive when you do?


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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 14th 2020, 8:20 pm

Oh whoops, I missed that in one of your earlier posts. My bad, haha.

I can't say how it's set up now, but I imagine the original 6v system was positive ground.


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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 14th 2020, 9:29 pm

Yeah the original 6V would have been Positive ground.  Not sure if the site is 100% yet.  Posts seem delayed.


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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 15th 2020, 12:18 am

Just going to have to follow the wiring to figure out if it is positive ground. Look at the things you know how to wire where it matters and see how it is wired on your tractor. FYI, they came up with a positive ground system to get rid of static charges that is a potential fire hazard.
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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 15th 2020, 3:08 pm

They're originally positive ground.

I doubt they changed the starter on the 12v conversion. It's probably still positive ground, so it's reasonable to assume the tractor still is. I'd still look over the wiring though.
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PostSubject: Re: Larger Tractor 9N   Larger Tractor 9N Icon_minitimeMarch 15th 2020, 3:42 pm

I looked over the wiring this morning.  It's negative ground.


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