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prancstaman Veteran Member

Join date : 2015-02-02 Posts : 1405
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 2nd 2017, 1:21 am | |
| It looks like the black 5 hp engine is shorter then the red 5 hp engine, when they was in the frame. Are they both the same height when put next to each other?
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TheBeal Veteran Member


Age : 27 Join date : 2013-06-06 Posts : 1356 Location : Central PA
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 2nd 2017, 8:14 pm | |
| - Lawren Wimberly wrote:
- hey... I need one of those....
I have one... - prancstaman wrote:
- It looks like the black 5 hp engine is shorter then the red 5 hp engine, when they was in the frame. Are they both the same height when put next to each other?
Oh Ohh Ohhhh... I see whats going on. I had to look closer, but there is a 1in spacer under the orange one. I dont think it was sitting flat on the mounting plate because of the tank. Did they make tall and short block engines? Anywho, heres my latest addition...    So I know its a crappy mower to begin with... but it looks like it needs to go faster... | |
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TheBeal Veteran Member


Age : 27 Join date : 2013-06-06 Posts : 1356 Location : Central PA
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 12th 2017, 10:49 pm | |
| hrrggk. So I made this belt guide for my st/10. There is supposed to be a guide thats bolts to the transaxle... I forgot to bolt it on, before I started putting this thing together. Itd be a pain to disassemble and bolt the proper unit on soooo....  This is going to be a grass cutter, but Im not sure quite how the deck mounts... this thing might interfere I dont know... lol | |
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prancstaman Veteran Member


Join date : 2015-02-02 Posts : 1405 Location : Cleveland,Ohio
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 12th 2017, 11:09 pm | |
| Yah, Briggs made tall and short deck 5 hp motors. The short deck ones are on the push mowers and are vertical shaft engines, that I've built up. But never really seen a short deck 5 hp with a horizontal shaft yet.
The engine block with a short deck means the piston while going up and down in the cylinder, will be moving faster, in turn gives more torque. Because the piston rod is shorter. | |
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TheBeal Veteran Member


Age : 27 Join date : 2013-06-06 Posts : 1356 Location : Central PA
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 14th 2017, 2:59 pm | |
| So still not much going with the "craftman thing"... its in the grass... err... weeds... ..but I did get some front wheels and tires for it!  So in my pile of parts, bits and pieces... Ive come up with this conglomeration...   I think I like how this looks better than the craftsman... | |
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AllisKidD21 Moderator


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Age : 23 Join date : 2016-07-10 Posts : 5139 Location : Ontario Canada
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 14th 2017, 3:20 pm | |
| Hey there's the Purnurple tractor! Haha. Is that pile of parts the new project or is that combining with the purple one? _______________________________________________ "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss | |
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TheBeal Veteran Member


Age : 27 Join date : 2013-06-06 Posts : 1356 Location : Central PA
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 14th 2017, 4:24 pm | |
| Brandy newy. Because I need all the projects I can get! | |
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Age : 23 Join date : 2016-07-10 Posts : 5139 Location : Ontario Canada
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 14th 2017, 4:48 pm | |
| Oh ok, hahaha. Is it still gonna be an off-roader? _______________________________________________ "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss | |
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TheBeal Veteran Member


Age : 27 Join date : 2013-06-06 Posts : 1356 Location : Central PA
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 14th 2017, 7:16 pm | |
| Im not sure really... not like a mud boggin, rock crawlin, hill climbin type thing... but uhh.. its... uhh... i dont know.  The craftsman will be more hotrod-esque... this new thing... kinda dirt racer hotrod-esuqe-ness? I mean... technically they would be "off road" units... | |
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Lawren Wimberly Established Member


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Age : 55 Join date : 2013-12-21 Posts : 744 Location : Salem Illinois
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 14th 2017, 9:20 pm | |
| dirt track racer... I could get into that... _______________________________________________ I can do anything I set my mind to... the impossible just takes me a little longer Tech Manual mod, If ya need it, and cant find it... Just ask.... Pm if I'm not on line | |
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TheBeal Veteran Member


Age : 27 Join date : 2013-06-06 Posts : 1356 Location : Central PA
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 14th 2017, 9:50 pm | |
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Age : 23 Join date : 2016-07-10 Posts : 5139 Location : Ontario Canada
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 15th 2017, 12:38 am | |
| Ya that'd be cool to see. _______________________________________________ "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss | |
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Age : 47 Join date : 2016-09-06 Posts : 8492 Location : Oklahoma
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 15th 2017, 10:30 am | |
| That would be cool. Would you actually try to race it in a league? Or just fun in the backyard? _______________________________________________ Tractors: Li'l Red - 89 Murray Widebody TheGreenMachine - 89 Craftsman GT18 Bowser - 01 Murray Widebody LT Phoenix - 75 Sears ST/16 Dirty Rat - 77 Sears Suburban Kal-El - 82 Murray GT Have a question? Ask me! Type in "@MightyRaze" in your post! | |
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TheBeal Veteran Member


Age : 27 Join date : 2013-06-06 Posts : 1356 Location : Central PA
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 15th 2017, 7:59 pm | |
| Just a back yard type deal. | |
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Age : 47 Join date : 2016-09-06 Posts : 8492 Location : Oklahoma
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 16th 2017, 12:16 am | |
|  Awesome! _______________________________________________ Tractors: Li'l Red - 89 Murray Widebody TheGreenMachine - 89 Craftsman GT18 Bowser - 01 Murray Widebody LT Phoenix - 75 Sears ST/16 Dirty Rat - 77 Sears Suburban Kal-El - 82 Murray GT Have a question? Ask me! Type in "@MightyRaze" in your post! | |
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TheBeal Veteran Member


Age : 27 Join date : 2013-06-06 Posts : 1356 Location : Central PA
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 16th 2017, 7:09 pm | |
| Maybe... lol So first thing I did was booger weld this brace in better. Im not sure if its in the way or not... but it aint moving now!  Here is, more or less how the dash, and gas tank will sit.  Ill need to trim the dash to fit the gas tank more better.  And heres where I hit my first snag... In order to clear the frame, and to get the axle sprocket in the center of this contraption...  | |
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Age : 32 Join date : 2013-11-02 Posts : 2885 Location : New Jersey USA
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 16th 2017, 9:57 pm | |
| Looking interesting so far. Will there be some sort of side pipe exhaust? | |
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TheBeal Veteran Member


Age : 27 Join date : 2013-06-06 Posts : 1356 Location : Central PA
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 17th 2017, 10:08 am | |
| Yes. If all goes well, it will go back under the floor board then out the side. | |
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TheBeal Veteran Member


Age : 27 Join date : 2013-06-06 Posts : 1356 Location : Central PA
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 17th 2017, 10:22 pm | |
| So I guess if I flip my frame around I wont have clearance issues... Ide still have to run a jackshaft to get the chain in the center... but thats too much work. K. eep I. t S. imple S. tupid Well... sorta...  | |
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Age : 23 Join date : 2016-07-10 Posts : 5139 Location : Ontario Canada
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 17th 2017, 10:34 pm | |
| This one should look pretty cool Beal! Is it gonna that low? What kinda speed are ya hoping for? _______________________________________________ "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss | |
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Age : 27 Join date : 2013-06-06 Posts : 1356 Location : Central PA
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 17th 2017, 10:47 pm | |
| yeah, its gona be pretty low I think. It will need a skid plate. As for speed... Im not sure, either something reasonable... 20-25?, or Im gona do something silly and gear it high... 30-35... 45... I think I like the idea of 25-ish. | |
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Age : 23 Join date : 2016-07-10 Posts : 5139 Location : Ontario Canada
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 17th 2017, 10:56 pm | |
| Yeah, a skidplate or two would be a good idea. Are you gonna change the shape of the shifter? Looks like it would hit the steering wheel maybe. _______________________________________________ "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss | |
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Age : 27 Join date : 2013-06-06 Posts : 1356 Location : Central PA
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 17th 2017, 11:13 pm | |
| Oh yeah, it would hit the dash as it is now. Ill either bend it so it doesnt hit, or possibly just make one. | |
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Age : 19 Join date : 2016-10-29 Posts : 2966 Location : Lewisburg, KY
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 18th 2017, 1:45 am | |
| I have one of those gearboxes, it has a plate bolted to the side of it that holds the shifter 90* to the left so you can actually shift it easily. Has a stripped gear tho so I can't use it. | |
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TheBeal Veteran Member


Age : 27 Join date : 2013-06-06 Posts : 1356 Location : Central PA
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 21st 2017, 10:17 am | |
| Anyone know of anyone running a centrifugal clutch on their vertical shaft engines? I am concerned I might not have much room under this thing... I know there will be a bit more wear and tear on the clutch, but thats ok.  Ill still try to build a clutch in there... I just dont want a bunch of stuff hanging down under it... its going to be low enough as it is now. | |
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Lawren Wimberly Established Member


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Age : 55 Join date : 2013-12-21 Posts : 744 Location : Salem Illinois
 | Subject: Re: Some sort of craftsman... and more! July 22nd 2017, 12:17 pm | |
| Ive considered trying a torque converter setup... you would be hard pressed finding a centrifugal clutch that will hold up to the HP and stresses in a lawnmower I think ( I think Thunder Divine put TC in his 90mph mini deere)
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