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okay.............so............what is it exactly????
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@loggers gogert wrote:
okay.............so............what is it exactly????

LOL. A steel roller. It can make a perfectly round steel ring from flat steel plate. The last 2 pics of the post shows what it does. I can buy a piece of flat steel From say Home Depot. A 2 inch wide by 6 feet long and 1/8 inch thick steel plate, run it through the rollers of the tool, to make a perfectly round ring. That is all it does for now. Later I can make adapters to roll other stuff too. Like round bar or thick square tubing.

I made this tool for a project on another thread. I'm making a set of rims and I am wanting to widen the rims. When you widen the rims, you add metal to the rim to be able to widen the rim. This tool makes the metal ring that I will weld on the rim to widen them. I want the metal ring to be perfectly round. Just a part of a whole project I am doing.
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dude............thats awesome

is it easier then just drilling a hole with a power drill??
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@loggers gogert It doesn't make holes, LOL. it makes circles, like for a steering wheel, or a steel barrel.
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Looks like the test went pretty well, great work prancstaman!

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@AllisKidD21 Thanks! I'm thinking on what else I can do with it already. I can probably make a pretty cool steering wheel from scratch. Or maybe make the jigs to roll up some T-posts for a frame I plan on building. I'm a thinkin, LOL.
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It's a metal roller. You can roll rings out of metal with it. You change the radius of the rings by the center roller.

You should use one of those bottle jacks to make a sheet metal brake(break?) or something.

Something I've made.... let's dig through my phone...

Demagnetizer I just finished. Doesn't work all well, but it makes things just a bit less magnetic if you do it right. At least it gets one of my hoarded sewing machine motors off the shelf in the shop. The bearing blocks were fun, had to mount them to the faceplate on the lathe and bore them out.
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The belt is an o ring from one of the filters on my dad's truck lol.
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I guess this counts, i did most of it at home. A tap handle from ThisOldTony's video, maybe some of you have seen that vid.
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Um here's a hammer handle I didn't put much effort into.
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Carriage stop i made for my lathe, almost entirely with my lathe.
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@RichieRichOverdrive Nice projects. I need to make one of those tap handles myself. Vice grips just not cutting it lately, LOL. like the lathe mill setup. I need to make that too. Probably pretty soon too. I got maybe one more project to do before I start the mill project, LOL. Now how does the demagnetizer work?
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It's just a bunch of neodymium magnets spinning around. I guess it should just jumble the magnetic field of anything that passes by it. By "should" i mean it doesn't very well.

I suppose it'd be good for when you really want a hard drive clean.
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@RichieRichOverdrive Oh, OK. I was asking because we had something in school that did the same thing. It was a magnaflux machine used to find cracks in parts. and after you tested the magnetized part, you had to demagnetize the part. You had to do it a certain way too and the last step was walking away from the machine till it turned off and that is how you knew the part was demagnetized.

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That's interesting. I don't really know much about the theory of it. I just have the magnets in reversing polarities

A pic of my setup for drilling the magnet holes. I don't think this is how the lathe or indexer were really intended to be used, but it works lol.
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PostSubject: Behind the 8 Ball Steel Roller part 9, the conclusion   Homemade tools and stuff from junk laying around - Page 5 Icon_minitimeSat Mar 21, 2020 9:22 pm

Hay People,
Last post on this tool, before I actually use it for my projects. Pretty much a test run on it to see how it works. Thought it would be a good idea to test it that way I know what to expect, Quite surprising for me actually, on using it. So, I can come up with a game plan and don't waste metal and money.

I'll be testing it on the same piece of metal I used after finishing it. The 1/2 inch wide, 1/8 inch thick flat steel stock. I just bent it flat to reuse it, LOL.
So, right off the bat, the first problem to fix is after the metal is rolled in a small enough circle, the outer roller pops out, LOL.
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Easy fix. I was thinking to use steel wire but then I would have to replace it every time I change the rollers. I figured I will use hose clamps then. I got enough of them and they were free. I'll use 2 per roller bearing side, for a total of 8 hose clamps. Using 2 to hold the bearing in place makes them really adjustable when clamping something.
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Back to rolling. I can roll it pretty easily. Wheel spins easy. Then when I get to a small enough circle I have to help push it through. No big deal, I expected that since it's steel on steel which there isn't that much grip. Helping to push it through when it's a small enough circle then that's what I'll do then. I keep rolling back and forth till the center roller is all the way down. That makes a 5 inch circle. And the outer rollers are not all the way inward either. I need to roll a 6 inch circle for my rims and I can do it with no problem now. That frame support on the top, I miss hitting it with the steel by working around it. When the steel was close to it, I just bent the steel a little more and the steel missed hitting it completely.
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I'm happy. Now I want to see how small of a ring I can make. So I reposition the outer rollers closer in and that makes them higher too, which makes a tighter circle. Here is where using 2 clamps comes in handy. The worm screw gets in the way and all you do is tighten the other clamp to move it out of the way. I know, use a big enough single clamp but not an option right now. In the end it looks fine to me.
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Then I roll, roll, roll, till I can't roll any more. Had to push it through while rolling, ofcourse. When the steel rolled onto itself then I move one end to the side to keep rolling somewhat. End result was a funky coil, LOL. Since I rolled onto itself, I couldn't just pull it out. IT GOT STUCK INSIDE THE TOOL, LOL. Never seen that one coming!! If I wanted to remove the metal without taking apart the tool then I would have to bend the metal, NOT GOOD. So I had to remove the center shaft to get the metal out the tool which meant cutting the wire that held the bearings on. I'll have to use hose clamps in the place of the wire to be able to reuse the stuff to hold the shaft in place. OK.
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Here is the tightest circle I can make with this tool. Kinda bad for a circle too it not being perfectly round, but still round. Sometimes you just have to mess stuff up to see what happens in order to learn something extra. The max is a around 3 1/2 inch circle. The ends are waste, the straight pieces. The ends get cut off because they are not part of the circle, and are 2 inches long on each end of the work piece, in the tightest circle I can make with this tool.
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That's it. I learned a lot about this tool. The setup, how to remove the work piece, the max smallest diameter I can make to be a good usable work piece, and what is wasted after. From start to finish. I don't think I ever used one of these before, at least I don't remember. Sometimes it goes like that and the learning or relearning gets to be real fun. If you have fun, then it's never work. OK, that's it for this tool, I'm pretty sure. Later...………..
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PostSubject: Valve spring locks remover/installer   Homemade tools and stuff from junk laying around - Page 5 Icon_minitimeSat Jul 18, 2020 12:00 pm

Hay People,
It's been a while. Been working on the new Avalanche rebuilding the motor. All aluminum block 5.3L Vortec LS. I got the short block done and working on the heads now. So the tool will be to remove the valves from the head with the head off the motor, but can be used to remove the locks while still on the motor if needed.

I started working on it before I thought of doing a rightup so some stuff is already done, LOL. Stuff I'm using- 3/4 inch wrench that I cut up in pieces already for this, a bracket from who knows what that I hammered flat, 2 metric bolts to fit in the head rocker stud holes and the thread for that is 8mx1.25 in the head, and a nut for the bolts but I need 2 nuts (lol) for the tool and get one more nut later on and the nut sizes are 8mx1.25 and 10mx1.5, oh and a flat washer.
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I need a pivot point that bolts to the head and needs to be tall. I weld the 2 bolts together so the bolt with the 8mx1.25 is down on the bottom to screw into head and the 10mx1,5 thread is on top to fit into the bracket with the nut on top which is the pivot point. I used the flat washer for the bottom thread that screwed into the head so it don't mark up the head.
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The bracket was a weird shape that I hammer straight. Already had holes and slots in it that I can use. Did one thing to bracket and that was put a bolt in one of the holes to fit the top of the welded up wrench so the top part doesn't fly out while using too.

Next I weld up the cut up wrench. I cut the open end and the boxed end of the wrench off. The arm of the wrench I cut the shark fins off and then cut the arm in half. Then weld it together. I use a piece of steel to span the open end of the wrench so it goes lower then the bottom so the tool don't fly out or off the spring when using it.
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So here are the 3 pieces of the tool.
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The part for the valve on how it fits on the top of the spring holder. Plenty of room to knock the keys out.
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The tool put together in place on the head and it working.
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The tool took a couple hours to make. One more thing needed is there needs to be something under the head that fits in the cylinder combustion chamber to hold the valves closed. Pushing down with the tool will want to push the valve open so a socket or extension or a piece of pipe about 3 inches long that fits in the combustion chamber under the head while it sits on the table works great for holding the valves closed.

And when I am done using the tool, I can pack it up and hang up in the basement, LOL.
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A little overview on the tool. I put the thinking into the wrench part. The bracket and the bolts welded together will change from engine to engine. The wrench part will be used from engine to engine and is the main part of the tool. For years I would use either a set of screwdrivers or a tie rod spreader to do this and pivot off the rocker turned sideways which can get sketchy and keys be flying. This is more controlled but keys can still go flying in whatever you do. I did both head on taking the valves out in under an hour without loosing anything which is a win.

Later.......
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Does that aluminum 5.3 have flat top or dished pistons. Just curious if it’s an LM4 or a L33
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@CraftsmanQuad19 It's a 4th gen aluminum block "08" with flat top fully floating pistons, and forth gen rods.


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porting the heads right now, lol
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Ok so the 4th gen version of the L33...whatever that code is haha. I saw it has the 243 heads, same as the LS2 but with different valves. That’s a decent factory spec engine right there
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The 4th gen engine is the LS2. Pretty hot motor, 310 hp in stock form. Yes, 243 head. Did a compression test before I blew it apart and was 180 psi. It's got some punch in the top end. Should have a little more after the porting, just a few spots to improve flow a bit in these heads.
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Im surprised you didnt have a regular valve spring compressor. Gotta do what you gotta do eh
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@TheBeal Yah, I couldn't justify the expense with how many engines I have done. Those tools are usually a couple hundred dollars for a good one. I would just get by with the pickle fork just about every time, LOL. Same thing with a piston ring compressor, been using a piece of sheet metal rolled up with a couple hose clamps, and works every time. Even made a video on my channel about making one. Can't justify the $20 expense on buying a cheap one when I can make one for free, LOL.
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Hay People,
Little update on this valve spring lock tool. This tool works great most of the time, as long as the cylinder head doesn't move around while pressing down. I hold my breath when pushing down so a sudden breath doesn't push the head sideways and the keys go flying away. Actually happened once and luck was on my side and found the key quick, LOL. But most times it works perfect and the keys pop right in. Here's a few pics on me putting the heads back together.
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The upgrades will probably come later as I use the tool. Need away to hold the head and push up on the valve at the same time so pushing down on the spring will not push the valve down. Maybe a plate with holes that go through the head bolt holes with adjustable bolts to keep valves closed firmly. Found a strong magnet to use where it will be on a rod to get the keys out when the retainers are pressed down. Just ideas right now. OK, it's late and bed time, Later....
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