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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 28th 2018, 7:06 pm | |
| Oh, apparently someone didnt tell me my gasket came like 2 days ago guess I'll go clean the shop and get started on this | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 28th 2018, 11:59 pm | |
| Excellent! Love how you can still get some old parts. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 29th 2018, 1:54 am | |
| I want to see the 2300 Rebuilt! Do a Vid! | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 29th 2018, 2:00 am | |
| I'm hardly doing a rebuild, I'm just replacing a few parts. Got it all apart and surveyed the damage. The inner axle seals were displaced and letting oil through(explains the problem i was having) and these roller bearings were all blown apart, and the shims/thrust washers behind the spider gears were broken. Remind me to just cut the wheels off next time, lol... I got a close enough OD measurement and found a part number for these bearings. Guess I'm lucky peerless uses almost all off-the-shelf parts rather than in house parts. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 29th 2018, 2:01 am | |
| Are you going to lock it, I need to see how it's done please | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 29th 2018, 6:13 pm | |
| I'm going to fozzy lock it like i did with my 820. Peerless 820, 1200, and 2300 series share the same design differential. Ordered a pair of NTA-1423 thrust bearings from ebay, should be here before next friday or so. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 29th 2018, 9:04 pm | |
| So it has spider gears then? I thought it had pinion gears. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 29th 2018, 10:10 pm | |
| I think the LSD versions have a special multi-pinion differential, but the normal ones like Rich's and Mighty's are just the standard kinda deal. "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* Garden Tractor Collection: Allis B-110 x2, 710, 716, & 410 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic, G10 & 1668 Diesel Swapped - Cub 106, 124 & 1000/149 Frankentractor - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss - Moto Mower 710-100 | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 29th 2018, 10:34 pm | |
| - AllisKidD21 wrote:
- I think the LSD versions have a special multi-pinion differential, but the normal ones like Rich's and Mighty's are just the standard kinda deal.
Yup! | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 30th 2018, 4:09 am | |
| Yep, this is the regular version.
Some little stuff i didnt mention before. -The shifter cup gasket came off in one piece, lucky me. I'll reuse it.
-The shifter itself had let in a lot of water. I'll have to replace that seal eventually but I don't think it's a big deal right now, I don't even have it driving yet lol.
-There is a little knurled part that prevents the diff carrier halves from coming off, right before the splines for the spiders gears start. On both sides, when I tried to drive the axles out, a sleeve that was pressed into the diff carrier(oddly enough, 1" OD, so if I were going live axle, I wouldnt even have to drill the sides out to 7/8") came out of the diff carrier sides and stayed on the axle halves. I pushed it back from the knurled part and ground the knurled part off on the bench grinder so I could assemble and disassemble the carrier easily. I don't get why they made a whole extra step of knurling that little 1/8" part, especially after the diff carrier halves and needle bearings are on. Possibly just a thing to ease assembly. Who knows.
-The input shaft is splined. Shouldn't have expected much else from an MTD order. Luckily the pulley came right off. In the future I can probably turn the shaft down to 5/8" if I really want to pulley swap it, without doing the whole pulley hub swap thing.
Oh, and some thoughts towards locking this thing. I'm going to have to do a really clean weld job with the fozzy and build the welds up so the axles/spiders are as tight as possible. This diff carrier is open to the rest of the trans, I don't want any metal particles getting into the bearings and such. Maybe I should consider a magnetic drain plug just in case? Lol
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 30th 2018, 6:51 am | |
| If this were a steel housing you could just put a couple of magnets in the bottom of the case and it wouldn't go anywhere, but since is aluminum I think the drain plug would work better. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 30th 2018, 6:54 am | |
| The case is cast iron(or steel, I'm not sure). If i had a few rare earth magnets I'd stick them in there, but i kinda don't lol. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 30th 2018, 10:32 am | |
| Both the fill and drain plugs on mine have magnets in them | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" June 30th 2018, 11:01 pm | |
| Hm, mine didnt seem to. I didn't really look though, lol.
Only thing i did for this rig today was patch the left front tube and run the engine a little bit. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" July 2nd 2018, 7:07 pm | |
| So was the internals rusty? On mine the cast iron was the only thing that rusted up and the gears just had a mild surface rust that didn't wear them out | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" July 2nd 2018, 7:15 pm | |
| There was some water in there and a bit of surface rust in a few spots but it's all good really. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" July 3rd 2018, 12:28 am | |
| Got to filling in the first tooth and the mig ran out of gas. Naturally, lol | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" July 3rd 2018, 11:53 pm | |
| My dad got another bottle but i was busy tonight almost blowing my hands off with fireworks so. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" July 6th 2018, 12:54 pm | |
| Weooo Man this thing is tight. No slop at all. | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" July 7th 2018, 10:29 pm | |
| I just spent like a half hour looking for the bearings for this thing but then i remembered i put em in the freezer lol | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" July 7th 2018, 10:57 pm | |
| The freezer is definitely an unusual place to put something like that and easy to forget after a few days.
Do you have it assembled yet? | |
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| Subject: Re: MTD - "Budgie" July 7th 2018, 11:56 pm | |
| No i can't get something to neener align or mesh so the case halves will come all the way together | |
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