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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider November 29th 2019, 11:28 am | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 4th 2019, 6:46 pm | |
| All right so I found a MST205 pretty cheap That I’m gonna put in here And the guy also has A whole Murray steering set up for pretty cheap like $10 so do you think it’s worth it to go and swap over the Murray steering would it be any tighter than this that I have now | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 4th 2019, 7:09 pm | |
| Murray steering setup is probably not much better..or not worth the hassle of setting it up. Don’t get me wrong, Murray is a has a decent setup for low speeds but would need some beefing up for rough terrain use. And for speed the front axle should be locked so it don’t pivot. MST transaxle are good...I really like them. As long as you vent the case you can put a lot of rpm’s to them without hurting it. | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 4th 2019, 8:10 pm | |
| In my opinion, MST's are the best vertical shaft tranny next to a Peerless 820. You can never have enough MST's LOL. Peerless 930's and pretty much any Spicer is junk. But I love MST's. Get it if you can. Also, is anything wrong with the trans that's in your rig or do you just want an MST? I believe you said it has a Spicer...
Honestly, Murray steering is WAAAYYY better than the gearbox that's in yours. It would help a lot, but not to the point that there is no play at all. Murray steering is good for about 30MPH tops. That's when it starts to get hairy. But if you're only looking to take "most" of the play out of the steering I say do it. | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 4th 2019, 8:22 pm | |
| I’m prolly not going to be using this on much rough terrain and I’ll be raising the front axle up till its unable to move | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 4th 2019, 8:51 pm | |
| - Murraymountain wrote:
- In my opinion, MST's are the best vertical shaft tranny next to a Peerless 820.
Or of course a 600 Series.   "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss *I have 21 tractors and over 40 chainsaws, I need help* | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 4th 2019, 9:59 pm | |
| - yeethaw wrote:
- I’m prolly not going to be using this on much rough terrain and I’ll be raising the front axle up till its unable to move
So this is kind of a street build? I would just go ahead and get the Murray steering (that is, if it's out of a Widebody.) and throw it on. It'll help a lot. - AllisKidD21 wrote:
- Murraymountain wrote:
- In my opinion, MST's are the best vertical shaft tranny next to a Peerless 820.
Or of course a 600 Series.  Are 600 series vertical shafts? I thought those were horizontal... | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 4th 2019, 10:03 pm | |
| alright thanks then i guess ill get it | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 4th 2019, 11:26 pm | |
| - Murraymountain wrote:
Are 600 series vertical shafts? I thought those were horizontal... Yes they are vertical. Heaviest gear vertical I know of. Here is @AllisKidD21's in MTD - AllisKidD21 wrote:
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 5th 2019, 9:31 am | |
| - MightyRaze wrote:
- Murraymountain wrote:
Are 600 series vertical shafts? I thought those were horizontal... Yes they are vertical. Heaviest gear vertical I know of.
Well, that may shine a different light on a future build... | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 5th 2019, 1:00 pm | |
| OK, lets get back on topic now. :-) | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 6th 2019, 11:57 am | |
| so this weekend ill be cleaning part of our storage container up and ill be able to work in there and start lowering this thing, my plan is to raise the front axle into the frame all the way till it cant pivot and to flip the transaxle, is there going to be any problems running the oil filled mst 205 upside down? also could one of the admins move this to the another more fitting section since this is going to end up being a drift mower | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 6th 2019, 12:28 pm | |
| Yeah you will need to get a seal for the input shaft. | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 6th 2019, 3:22 pm | |
| Moved to a "unique" build.
Another potential leaking area would be the shifter. | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 6th 2019, 4:37 pm | |
| On the mst there’s also a plug next to the shifter, should seal but there’s potential there for leakage | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 6th 2019, 8:25 pm | |
| If you flip the transaxle upside-down then you will have 5 reverse gears and 1 forward gear. By flipping the transaxle upside-down, the input shaft will be spinning in the opposite direction in relation to the case. Need to modify the transaxle gearing inside the case for it to work right. | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 6th 2019, 9:20 pm | |
| All that takes is reversing the order of the stack though right? None of them are cast as part of the shaft luckily | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 6th 2019, 9:47 pm | |
| Your gears will be right if you flip it upside down then flip it end to end which is what I’ll do | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 6th 2019, 10:24 pm | |
| I think it'll work fine if you just flip it, lots of racing mower guys flip transaxles for lowering and never have to modify the transaxle internally.  "This'll either wake you up or put you to sleep forever!"- Red Green "Whatever you do you should do right, even if it's something wrong." - Hank Hill - MTD Off-Road Build - Ford LT 110 Off-Road Build - Craftsman GT 6000 Off-Road Build - Sears LT11 Rat Rod Build *2019 Build-Off Winner!* - Allis B-110 x2, 710 & 716 - Wheel Horse 655, 953 & 500 Special - Case 444 - Bolens Versamatic & 1668 - Cub 106 & 124 - Ford 120, LGT 125 & 145 - White 1650 Yard Boss *I have 21 tractors and over 40 chainsaws, I need help* | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 7th 2019, 4:49 am | |
| I flipped a MST 206 in a Murray wide body with no gearing mods. Just a input seal and some linkage mods for the shifter and brakes (if using). I had to run 20” tires to keep the frame off the ground. | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 7th 2019, 9:42 am | |
| If you get 5 reverse gears, you can turn it 180 degrees so the axles would be in front of the gear stacks in relation to the tractor...does that make sense? | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 7th 2019, 12:10 pm | |
| Personally I’d run a jack shaft using a deck spindle | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 7th 2019, 7:09 pm | |
| I’m thinking what I’m gonna do is mount the front axle so the top of it is up against the bottom of the frame and then for the back I ordered 18 inch tires so I’m gonna lower the fenders till there just above the top of tires and then I’ll still have enough ground clearance to go and ride in the woods | |
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 | Subject: Re: 98 craftsman lt1000 Mudder/trail rider December 16th 2019, 6:35 pm | |
| They are great in snow too. | |
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