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PostSubject: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:57 pm

Placeholder and future thread for the 82 Murray CCT!  I do plan on some "minor" work on the tractor over the fall and winter prepping for next year's build-off!  When time for the build-off I plan on merging this thread to the Build-off thread in the proper section.

Things I plan on doing pre-build-off.

  • Some tear down
  • Cleaning
  • Power Plant decisions
  • Suspension acquiring and planning
  • Test the transaxle, is it good? If not how much to go live axle (opens other opportunities)


Things of caution, DO NOT DO TOO MUCH WORK and disqualify for the build-off.

I know several, like to hold back and keep secret things in their builds.  Yeah I could hold off, but I like the opportunity for others to critique and give ideas that I can work around.

But before all that, to help me keep hands off a little longer, we plan on using it for a Halloween Display!  (Pictures to come)

How I found and recovered it.


How it kinda is today,


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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:18 pm

Haha mighty's getting anxious to build this thing I think! Should be cool. What does the CCT stand for by the way?

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:26 pm

It's pretty simple, but you can wait till Feb. (it may change)  LOL

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:31 pm

Oh, great. Now I'm gonna be stuck trying to figure it out all the time! Hahaha, as long as it's not "Cold Cut Turkey" I'm not gonna worry.

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:38 pm

DANG-IT  Got to come up with something else.

No actually I have thought of Several names, CCT is just the one right now in the place holder.  I can almost guarantee the name will change by Feb 1.  I have had several names in mind, many have either been taken or similar to another name.

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:41 pm

HAHA! Gotcha!! Hahaha.

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:41 pm

@AllisKidD21 wrote:
HAHA! Gotcha!! Hahaha.
 I edited my previous response.

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:12 pm

Oh okay, hahaha. Any plans for cool steering upgrades? Thats always fun!

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:09 pm

What I want and what I can afford/create may be another.  I would like to go rack and pinion.  Almost every aspect of this old Murray's steering is shot.

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:59 pm

Yeah a shortened rack would be sweet, but I guess if you could get like a golf cart one it wouldn't need to be shortened. Either way that'd be pretty cool!

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:32 am

I figured if it is going to be a trail rig, it will need to be able to take the punch of a few roots and rocks.

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:55 pm

What's the lever on the fender for? High/low?
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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:07 pm

It is a brake hold for when you let off clutch on a hill. So you don't roll away.

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:23 pm

Oh really? I thought that was some sort of deck height lever. That's why I said it would make a great hand brake, but I guess it already is hahaha.

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:34 pm

Yes it is.

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:30 pm

Little decoration for Halloween!



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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:10 pm

Looking at the engine i am planning on putting in this thing.  It obviously had oil leaks and today I looked more closely into what they were.

Turns out it it appears to be from the top of the access and both valve covers.  Seal'r up and I should be good.  I had feared it was the top seal.



Popped off the flywheel and the seal looked good. Dirty but good. Alternator looked brand new, not a lick of rust on it. Good cleaning and things will be good!

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:32 pm

One thing I have discovered with this engine is it has a mix of SAE and Metric bolts. That is a bit frustrating. I wish I had the #'s but that cover was the only part missing as well as the starter.

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:24 pm

Going with 422707-0xxx as a model.  Just an educated guess looking at manuals on the Briggs website.

Got the starter on from my parts engine.  It appears to work well.  Good thing as this starter is lacking the holes to hold back the springs and bushings for a recondition.



I busted open the carb finally to clean it out. I was pleasantly shocked that is was like new inside.  NO varnish what-so-ever! Gasket was looking good too!




Added some oil and gave it a whirl to start it.  I was getting a very weak spark on the plug.  Further investigation showed arching across the coil magneto.  I think it would be best to just replace.  I can't seem to find my extra since we moved last Dec.

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:30 pm

I got the coil straightened out.  A rust flake was making contact where it should not.  Little clean up and she fired up and ran NICE!  Video of first fire soon as it is finished uploading!

Also, I think I may have a name for the project next year.  Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:37 pm



Not bad for who knows how long it has sat in a bucket.  LOL
Bottom oil seal leaks and that is the only thing I seen wrong at this time.

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:22 pm

She sounds great mighty! Just an idea, but maybe you should mount her sideways? Could help keep weight toward the center rather than out towards the sides to help it not roll over. Or maybe it would make it more roll prone? Eh, either way it makes it easier to make a cool 2 into one exhaust!
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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:41 pm

Thanks! I was pleasantly surprised how well it ran.  

If I didn't have a frame and hood not already designed for the engine, I would consider that.  I think I will go ahead with the normal orientation, if I did anything, I might would turn it around backwards, but with the tins I have, it would look a bit off.  I was thinking of doing something like I did with Red for the Exhaust, but I may go out the back instead of the side, or I may come off the side on both sides with twins.  Once the build starts, I kind of let the build tell me how it wants to be made.

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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:26 pm

Started cleaning up the engine to prep it for next year.  I really need to get that bottom seal  I'll order it tomorrow.  After Halloween, I will pull the old girl into the garage and drop the transmission and start cleaning it up and checking for operability.


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PostSubject: Re: Murray CCT [pre-build]   Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:19 pm

Engine all cleaned up and just need the bottom oil seal and then it is ready!





I need to grab that front piece for the heat shield off the parts engine too.

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