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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJune 26th 2019, 1:30 pm

Got the belt changed! It's actually a little bit faster. It flies considering it's got a hydro! And I also did this...

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Put it right underneath the tail light so you can see Ol' Glory in the night!

And the pull start will be needing some welding so that won't be done 'til the end of the week!
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJune 27th 2019, 9:04 pm

Got the pull start done!

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Basically welded a Murray Widebody headlight "socket" I guess you would call it, to a Craftsman spindle pulley and plasma cut the hole in the middle to fit a 15/16 socket, and then I painted it. The flywheel bolt holds it on like it would a washer.

Now I have to re-bolt the frame together in the front right section. Shouldn't take but 30 minutes.

Here's some videos I took today...

Pulley Swapped Hydrostatic Speed Test
Mud Run Part 1
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJune 27th 2019, 9:21 pm

Interesting idea with the piece from the headlight assembly, looks like it should work well!

Are you the one who did the welding?

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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJune 28th 2019, 9:05 am

I did not. I took it to an "exhaust shop", that really does a bit of everything. They did the welding and plasma cutting for me. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJune 28th 2019, 2:08 pm

Is that pulley on center? Interesting idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJune 28th 2019, 7:56 pm

Could be better, but it's centered for the most part.
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJune 29th 2019, 7:38 pm

Man do I hate when this happens...

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This is the reason for a future fuel gauge.
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 8th 2019, 9:38 pm

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I've decided it's time for some real sized tires. Does anyone know where to get a set of 20 x 8 - 00.8 and a pair of 16 x 6 - 00.6 V-tread tires for a good price? I'll be snooping around the scrapyard for them and some other good stuff but in the mean time...

The hydro conquered a pretty darn steep climb today...

Hill Climb

I think the steering bars are starting to toe out some. The front wheels are off only to where it's noticeable, but I don't like it. And when you hit bumps, one wheel can be straight while the other one is 45 degrees to the right, so some bushings musta wore out.

It has an older battery in it right now and it barely has enough power to turn the motor over even after an 18 hour charge, so I'm gonna pop the lids and see what the water levels are, and the battery itself is just covered in crap so I'ma clean it. The terminals are cracked, could that cause power loss to a battery?
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 15th 2019, 12:59 pm

This thing takes mud like it's nothing! Now I kinda wish I had taken it to Haspin to see how it would've done. Anyway, some more vids and pics!

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First Run of the Day
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 20th 2019, 7:24 pm

Well. What have we here...

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Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 21st 2019, 12:42 pm

Looks like a nice rig! Looking forward to seeing where you go with it! What part of NC are you in?
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 21st 2019, 8:36 pm

Thanks! I just "officially" started stage 2 of the build today.

I'm in the Tri-state area. Not sure how far you are from me, I'll have to look King up on the map.
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 22nd 2019, 11:20 am

Alright, so here's my first update video for the MM20... Mountain Murray 2.0 Update

The speed limit on the main road is 35MPH, so I want at least 30 out of the MST. I'll be painting the engine block, and the tranny cases. Not sure on the colors yet, but we'll see. I'm very limited to what I can do since my main concern is the MM, but it will come back slowly. I still need to fab up a shifter so it ain't gonna be moving under its own power until I get a welder.
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 23rd 2019, 8:50 pm

So, the MM20 is broken, and I have no good reason. The MST went back into "The Green Machine", and the hydro went to the spare parts pile because I don't wanna take the time to put it back in. So now, the MM20 just takes up space in the garage. The Craps-man is too boring to drive around. So is the Green Machine, the Craftsman is trashed, and the fab shop hasn't done a thing to the MM. So my last resort... The golf cart................... At least it's fast.

golf cart...... BORING




Anyway, plans for this thing are piling up every day... Tranny swap, Doc Lock, independent front suspension, tire change, new hood latch, a crap load of wiring for some AWESOME additions, reinforce all steering parts, reinforce and make the frame solid, ridiculous exhaust, etc.

When this is done, Cowgirl Motorsports can stick his "DON'T USE A Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 252588580 MURRAY" up his butt! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 28th 2019, 5:30 pm

Well, got it apart some more today...

This morning:
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All torn apart:
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Front end:
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Headlight assembly:
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Front axle:
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As she sits now:
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Am I getting your attention yet @AllisKidD21 ?  lol!

Well, the front end rebuild has started, along with some headlight re-positioning. I'll be adding a couple other lights to it too. As for the suspension I am a complete newbie to that scenario. No idea as to what shocks I'll be using, or which ones are the best option, or if I'm using radius arms and whatnot, or how to redo the steering. Heck, I don't even know what some of the things yall talk about are. For instance: Way back when suspension was a part of the Mountain Murray's plan, I had no clue what radius arms were until I looked them up. I'll learn as I go I guess. The plans for the front axle are the same as the MM's were, cut out the hole in the middle and split the axle in 2 halves, and make a pivot point for each axle. But anyway, something to keep AK up at night lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 28th 2019, 7:35 pm

I can tell you through experience. Having suspension vs no suspension is a big difference.  Even though Kal has no seat spring, the front suspension on it took all the impact when I was at Haspin this year.  Because of that, I plan on doing suspension on my red murray as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 29th 2019, 9:33 am

Yeah I hear that front end suspension helps a lot even without it in the rear. But I'm not going to get anything done until I get a welder.

I'll bet it will be. This is my favorite machine to work on too, just sayin'. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 30th 2019, 10:21 am

Well, I'm technically past the point of no return. Next is drilling out the holes so they can pivot. Once that's done I need a welder.

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Now what about these things... Can I still use them for this? Will they wear out?

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And is it this that "toes out", or is the the spindles?

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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 30th 2019, 10:58 am

So wait, it's gonna be an independent setup then? That was what I gathered by the axle being cut up like that, unless I'm missing something, haha.

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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 30th 2019, 2:34 pm

Yep, it'll be an independent setup!

Another question... How do I delete my safety switches? Just like @Crazy_Carl said a while back?
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 30th 2019, 5:28 pm

No time to explain, but basically, I tore it down to frame for a good cleaning. Now Ima reinforce the crap out of it, and change every self-tapping bolt in it. Also gotta rework the wiring.

Anyway, parts piles...

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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 31st 2019, 3:34 pm

@Crazy_Carl wrote:

So what key switch do you have?  If it’s a classic Indak one it should have terminals marked as the following:
s-solenoid
M-ignition coil
L-lights
b- battery (also connect to charging wire)
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All you do is run wires from the components directly to the correct pin on your ignition switch and you’ve bypassed the safety switches and cleaned up your wiring at the same time.



Okay, so I'm keeping the original ignition switch.


Mine also has "Y". What does "Y" stand for?
Will these instructions above work on mine?
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 31st 2019, 4:10 pm

L and Y are both for lights.  The AC charge coil goes to Y, and the light power comes off L, and the coil powers the lights.  This will mean that you can't have your lights on unless the engine is running, and the brightness of the lights will vary in the engine RPM.  I'd recommend not having your lights hooked up to the key switch that way, and instead having a toggle switch, with the voltage coming from the battery post of your solenoid.
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeJuly 31st 2019, 9:25 pm

Okay, good to know. I already have it setup with a toggle switch and that's how it's gonna stay.
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PostSubject: Re: Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody   Murraymountain's "Ole Blue" Widebody - Page 3 Icon_minitimeAugust 6th 2019, 7:33 pm

Well, I gotta say, now is not the time to mess with 'er. I should have left it alone until I can completely focus on this project. I have to finish the Beater Murray, get a decent welder AND learn how to use it, school starts in 2 weeks, I've still got tractors from this mowing season to get fixed up and be rid of, the Scat Rat is coming with a new year and that's creeping up fast, I'm looking at ANOTHER project not even related to this stuff, And to top it all off, the MM needs to be finished ASAP.

So, as much as I hate to, I'm gonna have to put this one aside for now. At least until the build off is over.... I already miss it.
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